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My body is ready. rolleyes.gif

Really though they would have a market in the HPC sector with one socket and some pro level MB's.
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Still, the ability to manage massive amounts of data is totally there if parallel processing works as well as they say. It's just a behemoth platform!

I wonder what price is going to look like? A Xeon E7-8894 v4 goes for north of $8,000 so anything around there would be pretty decent.
 
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post #13 of 147
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Originally Posted by nakano2k1 View Post

Still, the ability to manage massive amounts of data is totally there if parallel processing works as well as they say. It's just a behemoth platform!

I wonder what price is going to look like? A Xeon E7-8894 v4 goes for north of $8,000 so anything around there would be pretty decent.

That's what virtual machines are for too.
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I want to know the real clock speeds and such. 128 threads at 1GHz is not as good as 64 @ 3GHz.... etc...

Having said that, VERY INTERESTING and I wonder if the pricing will be somewhere in a range normal folks can afford...

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So a maxxed out config :

2 X CPU's totalling 256 threads/128 cores
2TB RAM : 64GB Chips in 32 slots
Lots and lots of IO

If they price this right, say around $8k...Intel will be left hanging...

Are we seeing the start of a CPU Revolution from AMD?

I think they are hitting all the right notes... may be a very interesting next year for us consumers and corporates biggrin.gifthumb.gifrolleyes.gif
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I will be very curious to see if they can give me a high core count WITH high clock speeds. For my VM host servers we have to give up a lot of clock speed for core count and you can feel it in our database servers.
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That's not what I saw.

128 lanes going to other devices.

AMD uses their "infinity" fabric for CPU to CPU communication.

InfinityFabric is simply a name for the interconnect, but it is an evolution of HyperTransport. The InfinityFabric pins are the same ones as used for PCI-E. For CPU to CPU communication, 64 lanes worth of pins are used to talk to the other processor. The other 64 lanes worth of pins can be for I/O, or for direct attached GPUs. So GPUs that support it (Vega) *could* be connected as a direct attached GPU instead of a PCI-E device, in a similar way Nvidia uses NVLink. Later this year, AMD will ship "headless" GPUs based on Vega for datacenter and supercomputing type workloads that do connect like this.
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Quick question, is the interconnect that is being used by Radeon GPUs to eliminate the need for crossfire cables similar to infinity fabric? Or is it just a totally different concept?
 
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Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post

InfinityFabric is simply a name for the interconnect, but it is an evolution of HyperTransport. The InfinityFabric pins are the same ones as used for PCI-E. For CPU to CPU communication, 64 lanes worth of pins are used to talk to the other processor. The other 64 lanes worth of pins can be for I/O, or for direct attached GPUs. So GPUs that support it (Vega) *could* be connected as a direct attached GPU instead of a PCI-E device, in a similar way Nvidia uses NVLink. Later this year, AMD will ship "headless" GPUs based on Vega for datacenter and supercomputing type workloads that do connect like this.
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I want to know the real clock speeds and such. 128 threads at 1GHz is not as good as 64 @ 3GHz.... etc...

Having said that, VERY INTERESTING and I wonder if the pricing will be somewhere in a range normal folks can afford...

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While I understand the sentiment, it kinda just boils down to a question of workload. Certainly in some cases you are entirely right, which is why intel has the W series processors in its product line. However there are many situations in data center where the opposite holds true.

We all ruefully joked for years with 'moar coars' from AMD, but in the data center market it is a very compelling argument for databases, document stores, and web servers. More simply put, if you have a high volume of simple tasks to complete, more slow cores is actually far far better than much fewer faster cores. If you don't want to take AMD's word for it after being burned so many times, Intel's Xeon D series is a perfect example.
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So a maxxed out config :

2 X CPU's totalling 256 threads/128 cores
2TB RAM : 64GB Chips in 32 slots
Lots and lots of IO

...

Haven't 128 GB ecc sticks been around for a while? They really didn't talk about much in the video, but I kinda get the impression we're closer to 256GB per dimm (even if its not possible yet) than 64 GB on the maxxed out config.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nakano2k1 View Post

Quick question, is the interconnect that is being used by Radeon GPUs to eliminate the need for crossfire cables similar to infinity fabric? Or is it just a totally different concept?

I don't think they are doing anything special, I believe they are just communicating over PCIe.
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