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Functionality support, ecosystem maturity and SLA's just to name a few more of things they also look at. Raw power and efficiency aren't the only variables in the equation.


How does any of that change going from Intel to AMD or from AMD to Intel?

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Posting random images isn't an argument. doh.gif
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Posting random images isn't an argument. doh.gif

Unless you know that the pictures are from a live demo they did with both test beds visible.
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I am hoping that somehow AMD can get a foothold with big blue. I think that will make a significant change, all I can get from them at the moment are really overpriced Xeons
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I am hoping that somehow AMD can get a foothold with big blue. I think that will make a significant change, all I can get from them at the moment are really overpriced Xeons

Exactly this, they don't need to do a lot to make me switch. Just be a good bit cheaper than the ridiculous Intel counterpart and I'll jump. Actually if they have better efficiency I might go for it anyway. Power cost is also an important factor.
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Naples is a seriously good product for the data centers. Xeons were always overpriced, and AMD can come in swinging with lower prices, and better performance. We will have to see how the market responds, but it's looking like a rather Serious win for the AMD camp here.
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I doubt AMD can get good market share in server market. It managed to ruin its name so bad that sales will be very poor even with a good product. It will take years to restore faith in AMD there.

So you would say companies don't make decision based on facts? They make decisions based on faith?
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So you would say companies don't make decision based on facts? They make decisions based on faith?

Our company is building a Datacenter, which will house probably 7-8 racks, filled with 2650v4 CPU's (dual socket). I asked why 2650v4, and not wait few more months for Naples - the answer was:
"We do not know how it will perform, we cannot use cutting edge technology until its proven".
And Opterons are out of the question, the IPC difference is huge. Plus the amount of threads possible to assign per virtual core is a lot less, since it doesn't have SMT/HT.
If the Naples turns out to be good in both performance and pricing, we have the option to upgrade our servers to Naples, since we are looking for best Performance/$.
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How does any of that change going from Intel to AMD or from AMD to Intel?

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First off I'm just reigning in your wildly understated comments.

Second, are you serious? Virtualization and other data center hardware has been specifically tailored for intel architectures for over a decade. The software support, and distribution support for Intel is mature, it's all but non existent for AMD right now.

These things work on AMD, but they are optimized on intel. There are huge cost and efficiency differences without optimization.
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post #130 of 147
CPU cost will be only part of the overall cost. You need RAM, data storage, data center, software licenses, maintenance. Intel is so firmly established in server market that it will take AMD years to catch up in sales there.

Moreover as it's been mentioned already Naples will be competing with Skylake-EP, not Broadwell-E.
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