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The more affordable Ryzen 7 1700 chip is going to be an awesome option for folks who aren't necessarily focused on high refresh rate gaming, but who want to play at resolutions up to 4K using a mid-range GPU. For those scenarios, I'd be inclined to pick the Ryzen 1700 over the Core i7 7700K as it feels like a safer bet long term, not to mention that Ryzen's productivity performance is much stronger. However, if I were specifically interested in 1080p or 1440p 144Hz gaming, then Intel's 7700K would be the better choice.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1348-amd-ryzen-gaming-performance/
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That's all still without the SMT fix. Once that hits, I expect gaming performance to improve substantially.
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They tested with SMT on/off....
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They tested with SMT on/off....

Why no tests with HT off as well then? It's the same technology, just currently has issues on the AMD side. Test with both on and with both off for fair results. Of course Intel with HT will beat AMD with SMT off.
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They tested with SMT on/off....

I'm just waiting for the scheduler fix. Moving thread cross CCX's is going to cause substantial cache misses, and a rather noticeable performance hit.
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Why no tests with HT off as well then? It's the same technology, just currently has issues on the AMD side. Test with both on and with both off for fair results. Of course Intel with HT will beat AMD with SMT off.

my main question is why no testing with an overclock on the ryzen chip. those chips were running at stock clocks.

If you think about it ryzen at stock clocks and 1080p was coming in 14% slower then the i7-7700k at 4.5ghz which is clocked a solid 20% higher
at 1440p ryzen at stock clocks was within 4% of the i7-7700k

looks like a gaming chip to me.
 
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my main question is why no testing with an overclock on the ryzen chip. those chips were running at stock clocks.

If you think about it ryzen at stock clocks and 1080p was coming in 14% slower then the i7-7700k at 4.5ghz which is clocked a solid 20% higher
at 1440p ryzen at stock clocks was within 4% of the i7-7700k

looks like a gaming chip to me.

Exactly, this is why I'm so disappointed that most Ryzen overclocks cap out at 4Ghz. If they could reach 4.4-4.6Ghz they'd be killers.
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tl;dr even at stock speeds, no chip is good enough to guarantee a constant 144fps on a 144Hz 1080p screen. If you have a high refresh rate screen, go for Intel but if you have a high resolution or 60Hz screen, go for AMD because it's good enough performance now, better performance later.
    
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Well I'm hoping that by the time Intel releases Skylake E there will be an improvement in clocking from Ryzen. Better stepping or some other magic that gets them up around 4.4 or so. I wouldn't mind seeing a test done with proper water cooling (not these aio things) since it appears that the heat really starts to kick up with higher voltages.
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If they locked in the clock of the ryzen to 4.0-4.1 Ghz it would of closed that gapped even more.
Edited by Uns33n - 3/7/17 at 9:54am
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