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Doing some testing,
I just bought an R7 1700, MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon, and GSkill FlareX 3200.


So far,
R7 1700 is running at 3.9GHz @ 1.388v
Memory is running at the 3200 strap at 14-14-14-14-35
Bios 1.2
Passed Intel Burn Test standard
Passed 100 runs of the X264 stability test: normal, 16T

Then tried 4.0 @ 1.488
Passes Intel Burn Test stabndard
Failed X264 test...

Not willing to run volts higher than 1.488 so looks like I'm stuck at 3.9
post #262 of 292
Here's something funky. I have had this feeling that the AM4 (CHVI) is holding on to BIOS settings even after a clear etc. When I change CPUs now I always re-flash the BIOS just because of issues I have had. This weekend I got out the CHVI that I had taken cold the weekend prior. As my usual custom, once done I pull the CMOS battery. After it thaws I strip it down including the CPU and it has sat in a box for a week with no CPU or battery. I strapped the WB on it this weekend with the 1700x which was in it before. Also did a clear CMOS for ~ 30 seconds. Luckily I had cold water running. The damn thing booted up at my LN2 settings of 4.5 GHz and 1.6v. I quickly hit F5 and rebooted everything is fine but ***??? You would think after a week with no backup power the BIOS settings would be clear
Then the MSI board I was testing. For a while I thought I had broke it. Got it to boot with 4x4g corsair 3400 and running at 2666. Wouldn't go higher and crashed a few times. Cleared CMOS and installed my G.Skill. Windows wouldn't load at F5 defaults any changes to the ram/CPU resulted in no boot. Tried flashing the BIOS and the Mflash utility wouldn't start. Eventually I got it worked out but damn, things shouldn't be that hard.
Edited by Johan45 - 4/10/17 at 7:01am
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@Johan45

I was playing with BCLK on C6H and changing straps and it seems if I have a "failed setup" it "borks itself" and won't revert back to a lower BCLK/strap on changing, it seems to show wrong RAM clock then for BCLK/strap. The quick way I found of sorting it was to load optimized defaults and start testing again.

For example IIRC I setup first 100BCLK with 2666MHz strap > boot OK, 110BCLK same strap > 2933MHz > boot OK, 120BCLK same strap > 3199MHz > boot ok, 125BCLK with same strap 3333MHz > not take and when in UEFI I have something like 28xxMHz, so I drop bclk and or strap and then it's "skew if" (ie correct RAM clock shown, is too low).
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That could be the "memory hole" you're running into but yes things seem to get really weird sometimes. Sometimes defaults work but I have found sometimes they just don't. Memory seems to be very delicate for lack of a better word and scrambles the BIOS.
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I tried targeting 3466MHz as Elmor's OC guide had suggested works with some samples they must have tested, unfortunately frown.gif . Then also tried 3600MHz = /+ and no go frown.gif , even with loosened timings / slight bump on VDDP / SOC, etc (CPU stock). Perhaps May update with straps 3200MHz+ may yield some joy wink.gif .

Ahh well there are plenty not running 3200MHz C14 24/7 wink.gif .
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Guess I never submitted my info, oops.

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Still 10 more days until they (maybe) ship my Flare X sticks. frown.gif I have nothing to report so far.
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Cheers madweazl added data smile.gif . No worries Decoman when you have data be great smile.gif .
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Can someone please, who has the ability to measure off-the-wall power usage, test the difference between normal balanced profile (5% minimum power state) vs. the Ryzen Balanced (90% minimum power state). I only measured using HWiNFO and it does seem to be true because Ryzen Balanced only uses 2-4w more (CPU Power Package) at idle.

AMD claims that their Ryzen Balanced should still utilize all p-states despite the clock speeds being "stuck" (clock speeds are stuck and does not appear to downclock). Ryzen Balanced should use more power at idle because it doesn't park the cores, but if what AMD states is true, Ryzen Balanced should barely use any more wattage than normal balanced, while offering more performance.

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/04/06/amd-ryzen-community-update-3
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Now that you know a little more about the performance of our new plan, let’s talk power. The AMD Ryzen Balanced power plan does not change how our processor handles low-power idle states called “CC-States.” These CC-States number cc1 through cc6, representing increasingly aggressive clock and power gating. In fact, cc6 represents a core that is essentially turned off. The core is sleeping so deeply that only its voltage can be detected by software.

The sophisticated power management technology in the “Zen” core can autonomously enter and exit these CC-States as quickly as 1ms. Software tools, unable to see through the sleep, will simply report the last P-state known to the OS before the core entered a CC-state. Don’t be alarmed! The effective frequency of a sleeping core is much lower (generally sub-1GHz).

Thank you in advance!
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Originally Posted by finalheaven View Post

Can someone please, who has the ability to measure off-the-wall power usage, test the difference between normal balanced profile (5% minimum power state) vs. the Ryzen Balanced (90% minimum power state). I only measured using HWiNFO and it does seem to be true because Ryzen Balanced only uses 2-4w more (CPU Power Package) at idle.

AMD claims that their Ryzen Balanced should still utilize all p-states despite the clock speeds being "stuck" (clock speeds are stuck and does not appear to downclock). Ryzen Balanced should use more power at idle because it doesn't park the cores, but if what AMD states is true, Ryzen Balanced should barely use any more wattage than normal balanced, while offering more performance.

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/04/06/amd-ryzen-community-update-3
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Now that you know a little more about the performance of our new plan, let’s talk power. The AMD Ryzen Balanced power plan does not change how our processor handles low-power idle states called “CC-States.” These CC-States number cc1 through cc6, representing increasingly aggressive clock and power gating. In fact, cc6 represents a core that is essentially turned off. The core is sleeping so deeply that only its voltage can be detected by software.

The sophisticated power management technology in the “Zen” core can autonomously enter and exit these CC-States as quickly as 1ms. Software tools, unable to see through the sleep, will simply report the last P-state known to the OS before the core entered a CC-state. Don’t be alarmed! The effective frequency of a sleeping core is much lower (generally sub-1GHz).

Thank you in advance!

I tried an experiment somewhat like that while back, there was only about total system usage was 96 watts at full voltage vs 86 after it dropped the V-core - same clockspeed.
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