Overclock.net banner

Asrock Killer SLI/AC X370 cannot get higher than 2133

37K views 222 replies 34 participants last post by  Denther 
#1 ·
Hi I recent purchased an asrock killer SLI X370, I also bought the Geil EVO X 3000 16gb ram kit. I updated the bios to 1.62 which is a beta version.
So far when using XMP profile it goes to 2933 and ups the voltage to 1.35 like it should, no boot just beeps. I even tried 2400 with 1.35 volts and still no boot.

I was hoping someone bought this board and can share some experiences, I heard ryzen has problems with hynix ram chips and samsung works the best,
however since its geil I have no idea to know who OEMed geil their ram.
 
#2 ·
Hopefully, it will get fixed with a new updated Bios from AsRock soon.
 
  • Rep+
Reactions: Devon
#3 ·
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Killer%20SLI/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Killer%20SLIac/index.asp#Memory

The only GEIL memory on their QVL for the board is 2133MHz

edit: the ASUS PRIME PRO is listing GEIL GFR416GB3000C15ADC 15-17-17-35 1.35V 3000 DOCP2933 as single rank so you should be able to get at least 2666MHz

the Gigabyte Gaming 5 lists the GEIL 8GB 2Rx8 GPR416GB3000C15ADC 15-17-17-35 1.35v downgraded to DDR4 2933 MHz as dual rank with 2133MHz native

GEX416GB3000C15ADC SS 15-17-17-35 1.35v downgraded to DDR4 2933 MHz as single rank with 2133MHz native
 
#5 ·
Allrighty so I had an Idea, I know they sell the gskill (SPECIAL AMD RYZEN) memory with poor timings and high prices, so I foung the fortis kit with 2666mhz and saw that the timings were 18 18 18 18 43, so i set my ram to 18 18 18 18 42 and voila it booted at 2666mhz, find it funny it wouldn't do 2400 even with 15 17 17 15 35 timings as specified in my geil kit. but at least iam getting somewhere. hopefully they iron out the bios issues running the 1.62 beta bios right now. The really funny thing is I just moved this 7 install from a sandy bridge system and have had zero crashes or problems in the os
 
#6 ·
Haha it won't change until they release Ryzen ready memory kits, nice that you got it working!
thumb.gif
There's only GSKill Flare X DDR4 kits with garbage timings as "Ryzen ready" out of the box. We need to see more action on the part of Crucial, Corsair, and others.

Memory kits are all over the place with respect to errors and compatibility issues. You have to keep in mind it's a new architecture , new motherboard series , and motherboard manufacturers had minimal time working on BIOS since they initially didn't take AMD very seriously according to early reports.

Due to the way CCX works on ryzen via Infinity Fabric , I would try to get DDR4 3000 or DDR4 3600 with tighter timings if possible (CL14 or CL15).

As a side note, did the lack of USB 3.1 Gen2 hamper your decision to buy the Killer SLI/ac in any way? I know someone that wants a ryzen system and liked that board but it lacks a few things such as USB 3.1 Gen 2 and the Post LED.
 
#7 ·
USB 3.1 was kinda of a bummer and to be honest I didn't even realize it till after I bought it, however I like the board wish it had cmos switch since Ive moved the jumper back and forth a ton figuring out these ram timings. If I had to do it all over again I would get the Taichi, that said I just moved the multi to 36 with no voltage increases or anything else and its doing 3.6ghz just fine. I love this Ryzen and I am starting to love this board!
 
#8 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

As a side note, did the lack of USB 3.1 Gen2 hamper your decision to buy the Killer SLI/ac in any way? I know someone that wants a ryzen system and liked that board but it lacks a few things such as USB 3.1 Gen 2 and the Post LED.
So I noticed something strange on that. First, ASrock seems to only be calling all the ports on the board 3.0. Second, I haven't tested but if you notice on the back plate there is two cyan ports. I am curious is they just messed up typing the USB specs? I mean they also got Realtek LAN drivers in the driver page for a motherboard with a intel LAN port on it.
 
#9 ·


If you test the ports and they are USB 3.1 Gen 2 and not USB 3.1 Gen 1 (i..e USB 3.0 speed) please tell Asrock to fix their pages and specs.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a hurry they messed some typing up since it has happened on their BIOS for X370 Taichi that they mentioned Intel specific things according to Level1Techs.

X370 Killer SI appears to be cut down from Fatal1ty K4:


tongue.gif
 
#11 ·
Could you contact Asrock directly to find out?

Maybe write something similar to
To Whom It May Concern:
I purchased an X370 Killer SLI/ac motherboard from Asrock. As I understand it the X370 chipset from AMD has 2x USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports in addition to 6x USB 3.0 and 6x USB 2.0 support. I do not own any USB 3.1 devices but the motherboard shows USB 3.1 support within the Windows Device manager.

Could you confirm the existence of USB 3.1 Gen 2 on this board?

Thank you.

Sincerely,

______________
It is a good sign for the USB 3.1 to show in the device manager (be aware USB 3.1 Gen 1 = USB 3.0 speed). Hopefully it is just a documentation mistake.

It could possibly be the same case for the AB350M Pro4 , AB350 Pro4, and Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 but those are B350 boards
 
#13 ·
Another thing I noticed is they removed the 1.62 beta bios and now only have 1.61, wonder why they did and it doesn't make me feel too confident running 1.62. I hope they get back to you that would be great news if it is really 3.1
 
#16 ·
I want in on this thread!

I got it, and no - USB 3.1 had no bearing on the decision. The Wifi certainly did, since I can't hard wire into my room.

Definitely going 1700....

Up in the air on the GPU still - long story.

RAM has been the big question....I think I'm pulling trigger there on Tuesday. So the post of copying Flare-X timings was super interesting and useful. I'm thinking I might go with 3200 ram and do the same thing. No need to spend $129 for 18 latency...

Still 2-3 weeks away from build, so this might be my new favorite thread.

Also, what do you guys think of going real cheap with 8Gb of RAM - then dumping another 16 in, in another month or so? Will the 4 DIMM's totally kill anything over 2400 - according to ASRock's spec page:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370%20Killer%20SLIac/#Specification

I haven't seen any real reductions in price for the lower frequency mem's, hence the plan to go balls out at 3200....

Did anyone else notice the Wifi uses a third M.2 slot? That's sweet - anyone have any feedback on that so far?

I have to admit - holding it in my hands to really look over it was so totally more different and awesome than trying to read websites and look at pics...now I just need the 3 big pieces.

And lastly, I'm thinking the Wraith cooler will work for a month or so until I can get a Corsair AIO - I'm being lazy and not doing a custom loop this time around.

LOVE this board (almost as much as my old GD70....)...maybe once it's fired up, between the board itself and the chip - we'll retire that notion once and for all!

thumb.gif
 
#17 ·
I also went with the 1700, trying to maximize the price to performance ratio and found this made a great combo for that.

Not sure what to recommend on RAM, I'd go with something on ASRock's approved list for now. I don't think it's a good idea to mix memory, if you can afford a Dual Channel kit in a month or so then either wait until then or put it on credit now.

Btw I have a kit that is not listed as supported for this board, but it seems to work fine underclocked. However with XMP enabled it won't post; the beta 1.62 BIOS update did nothing for this G Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16 32GB kit.
 
#18 ·
1.63 Beta Bios on their website now, says they added DRAM timings to OC TWEAKER which is great as I thought it was kinda odd you had to set the timings in the other menu I'll give it a try after work. Gill until we know the problem is fixed I would go with 2 sticks so you know you get the maximum speed out of your ram, I hope someone here can get more than 2666 out of this board, I did tighten up my timings a bit more running 17 17 17 17 37 right now and stable so far. iP337 same thing XMP fails to post on mine and even shows my 3000 ram at 2933 on the xmp profile.
 
#20 ·
So I can confidently say that this board on 1.63 with my GSKILL 32GB 3200 CL16 RAM WILL NOT run at 3200. I even tried to set timings to maximum (33-27-27-27-58) with 1.36v and it still wouldn't POST, just 3 beeps and a restart.

However, I am able to set 2933MHz 17-15-15-15-35 1.355v manually in the BIOS with no issues (though CPUZ is reading it as 18-15-15-35-69-1T).

Which I am not sure is better than 2666/14-14-14-14-34, isn't that setting supposedly equal to 2933/15-15-15-15-35?
 
#21 ·
hello's,
not got my asrock killer sli yet, will be with me next week. I also ordered 16gb of 3200mhz in two strips. I read the cpu only recommends 2400mhz for its imc.
thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

glad to hear it can reach the 2933 mark though, ill join you in trying to get to 3200 soon.

got some good looking ram though.
avexir blitz silver 3200mhz 16.18.18.36
its black and white with white strobe lights on the top, should match the killer colour scheme nice.
smile.gif

 
#22 ·
Payday update:

I showed great restraint while waiting for the snowpacolypse that never was. So here's where I stand, and hoping to hear from you guys before I push the buy button!
tongue.gif


I'll provide reasoning with each:

GPU: RX480 Powercooler Red Dragon 4GB version https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706&ignorebbr=1

RX 500 series is due out a little over a month from now. It is a rebrand with supposed 5-10% increase in performance. At $179 for this card before the $20 rebate, plus a free Doom game...it puts the real cost at $100. That's a no brainer. Even at 1440P, VRam shouldn't be an issue currently. Plus, you can always Crossfire it, and at this price who cares (bonus to our motherboard choice here!!
thumb.gif
)

RAM (Real point of this post and thread) - I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm going price and timings over frequency.

Team Dark 8 GB at 2400 with 14 Cas @1.2 v : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313794

Yes, I'll go 16GB at some point - but for now, 8GB is fine - especially with BIOS compatibility where it is currently. For $54 - and with the GPU above, if I want new GPU and matching RAM - I can always use both pieces in an AM3 build that's dirt cheap with Linux and mine crypto...no real loss.

Back to the RAM...so my thinking is - get it up and running in Windows at the 2400. Overclock the 1700. Fire up CPU-Z. Write down the timing charts. Back to BIOS. Up this punk to 1.35 - raise the timings, and BLAM - Bob's your Uncle, hello 2800 or 2933
yessir.gif
The timings and voltage leave that room. For a $54 experiment it's worth a try.

What say you, fine OCN brethren?
bigeyedsmiley.png


Two weeks from today, we'll order the 1700 and I'll be ready to build!
drool.gif
 
#23 ·
If I remember correctly, that powercolor GPU is one of the worst 480s out there, especially if you want to overclock it. There are several similarly priced 480s out there with better components. Also, while 4gb of vram is usually enough, the 8gb 480s have higher clocked ram @2000Mhs compared to around 1700.

I really understand not wanting to invest much with the next set of cards about to come out.
 
#24 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jericho941 View Post

If I remember correctly, that powercolor GPU is one of the worst 480s out there, especially if you want to overclock it. There are several similarly priced 480s out there with better components. Also, while 4gb of vram is usually enough, the 8gb 480s have higher clocked ram @2000Mhs compared to around 1700.

I really understand not wanting to invest much with the next set of cards about to come out.
Yeah, I saw the videos on the PCB's on the 8GB variants. So no Furmark....no biggie. With Doom and rebates...it's $100 at the end of the day.

But, I ended up pulling the trigger on everything I mentioned. As Murphy's Law states, I wake up this morning to an April 11th release date for the Ryzen 5's - with a possible 18th on the 500 series..... This totally would have changed how I did things last night.

So...what does that do to the build? Do I say screw it and still go with the 1700 in two weeks? Or, as I'm leaning....go with my original plan and go with the 1600 (or 1500 depending on which leak you read) as originally intended. If I go that route..I can go Corsair 110i 280mm AIO (AM4 compatible without the additional bracket)...AND go with another 16GB of the Team RAM...it's $109 for the same speed (2400) and timings 14 Cas. I think that is best for me personally, as it will

a.)bring the system as I originally intended (6 core, 12 thread 16MB L3) with the AIO right of the gate.

b.) will help the thread and the community - as I'll be filling all four DIMM's with a reasonable speed - odd total amount 24GB - but it will allow me (and us) to see the limits of the AM4 IMC when all four are filled - attempting overclocks!

Bad news is, it puts the build back another 2 weeks...

Crazy side thought??? As you can see from my signature - I used to own a 550BE... Best damn chip I've ever owned and made me an AMD fan for life. I spent $95 and unlocked the other 2 cores....AND got a crazy 24/7 overclock out of it to boot. If I go with the 6 core variant here.....maybe, just maybe.........we'll try to open the last 2?

Here's my rationale to this craziness.....they HAD to release Ryzen 7's for the press and investors....so they put the best of the best out there....but they are only giving themselves a month to get the 5's out to their channels....and they know - and WE know the 5's are where it's REALLY going to be at. While 7 chips haven't sold out - I can see this happening to the 5's. So....they rush to get the 5's out in massive numbers.....how do they do that with the 6 cores??? They take a bunch of working 8's and just disable the other 2 - knowing full well they work as intended as 8's - but to reach the supply they'll need - OUR best chance at getting gimped 8's that would really work - are right at launch........

Now the other thing working in our favor, is the ability to turn off the cores on the regular 8's as is (I haven't played with BIOS myself - but all the 4 benches out there were achieved by doing this).....so who's to say that we can't turn the 2 back on that AMD turned off. Just a thought!
drum.gif


What do you guys think?
 
#25 ·
yer, but the fx did not unlock extra cores, so i doubt that they would do it now, but fingers crossed.
i wonder if anyone checked to see if they did unlock more cores?
 
#26 ·
I also have this board and cannot for the life of me get it above 2133.

Also how exactly do you overclock on this board? It wont let me input proper offset values OR fixed volts. I can only input 1.25v with fixed, and offset i have no idea whats going on but i tried doing something like .051 (to get to 1.25v at load) and it would not accept it., it gave me some crazy number like .625 or something.

Would love if someone did a guide on this board lol.
 
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top