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One thing I don't understand is WHY the rest of their boards support 3200+ memory as listed in their website, all but the X370 Killer SLI and the X370 Fatal1ty K4.

I really don't get it

All this boards at 3200+

http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M-HDV/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#Memory


Yet the Killer and the K4 the ONLY ones at 2933+

http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X370%20Killer%20SLI/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X370%20Killer%20SLIac/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Memory


Anyone has a reasonable answer to this weird situation? Or did we just made the wrong decision choosing the Killer and K4 X370 boards (which are much more expensive than the B350 ones)?

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post #92 of 169
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Originally Posted by bloot View Post

One thing I don't understand is WHY the rest of their boards support 3200+ memory as listed in their website, all but the X370 Killer SLI and the X370 Fatal1ty K4.

I really don't get it

All this boards at 3200+

http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M-HDV/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Professional%20Gaming/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X370%20Taichi/index.asp#Memory


Yet the Killer and the K4 the ONLY ones at 2933+

http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X370%20Killer%20SLI/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/X370%20Killer%20SLIac/index.asp#Memory
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20X370%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Memory


Anyone has a reasonable answer to this weird situation? Or did we just made the wrong decision choosing the Killer and K4 X370 boards (which are much more expensive than the B350 ones)?

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as soon as I can find someone selling a x62 without scalping - I might just pick up a taichi - too many mods still to do before I worry about that last 3%
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as soon as I can find someone selling a x62 without scalping - I might just pick up a taichi - too many mods still to do before I worry about that last 3%

I'm at just a click to order a Crosshair, thing is I am sure Asrock will then realease a bios which supports 3200+ memory, just for trolling me mad.gif
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as soon as I can find someone selling a x62 without scalping - I might just pick up a taichi - too many mods still to do before I worry about that last 3%

I'm at just a click to order a Crosshair, thing is I am sure Asrock will then realease a bios which supports 3200+ memory, just for trolling me mad.gif

personally, after reading how much extra the Crosshair guys are going through, then the taichi guys... I know what my choice would be. and it's not changing brands.
post #95 of 169
I got the second cheapest RAM and had no issues with 3200. Remember I also was only running 8 GB though to maybe that has something to do with it. I've only turned it down to 2933 the last week because I was mining Bitcoin...I didn't want any crashes. No issues with that or gaming all week. My Ryzen hasn't dipped under 53% usage at all.. So it isn't like I'm letting it sit idle either.

I'm still on 2.0... I'll report back after I update it
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post #96 of 169
Same, cant get mine past 2666. Was thinking the same thing about getting another board. Havent tested my ram yet though. The only way i could get my ram to 2666 was set the XMP and then downclock it. 2.10 seems to have added a ram timings setting, something about ohms. I really dont mess with ram timings, usually just set it manually and its good to go. Never flashed bios before either.

Was hoping someone could post some ram settings to see if i could get mine to 2933, but without C14 whats the point?
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Same, cant get mine past 2666. Was thinking the same thing about getting another board. Havent tested my ram yet though. The only way i could get my ram to 2666 was set the XMP and then downclock it. 2.10 seems to have added a ram timings setting, something about ohms. I really dont mess with ram timings, usually just set it manually and its good to go. Never flashed bios before either.

Was hoping someone could post some ram settings to see if i could get mine to 2933, but without C14 whats the point?

because, it's still faster - (CCXs are tied to the ram MT/s not the latencty) so - 2933 at C16 is still better than 2666 at c14
post #98 of 169
So what timings should i use / try, to get to 2933 or better yet 3200?

The only info ive got so far thats worked, is set the XMP and down clock to 2666. Ive never used XMP before, always set it manually. But that was with intel. On my old rig, XMP didnt work, but setting it manually to the same settings as XMP, did. Just XMP was not enabled. weird.

Off topic question: Ive got my cpu voltage at 1.275. Boots, opens windows, runs cbr15, runs prime95 thermal test, but about 3 minutes in, thread 12 and 13 drop to 50% and fluctuate/alternate to always equal 100% together. So the UC will be around 93%. I dont think thats noraml?

1.262v boots, opens windows, runs cbr15, but reboots when running prime95. So Im thinking I may need to up the voltage to 1.287. I havent tried it yet to see if thats whats making p95 not run thread 12 and 13 at 100%. Im happy with the thermals at 1.287v (70c) but i just noticed this yesterday when I couldnt get it to 4.0 at 1.350v.

At 1.350v temps at 3.8gh were 77c. at 4gh 1.350v would reboot during cbr15 mt test (no bsod, just go to reboot but not actually reboot). Im sure i could get it to 4gh but it would be way to hot and from what ive read, even if you can get it that high, throwing more voltage at it will get you diminishing returns, meaning it wont perform as well as it would at 3.9gh at lower voltages or something like that? Doesnt matter, i would like to keep it under 75c max, 70c preferred. Was hoping for 4.0gh but expected 3.9, im happy with that.

Another question is how do i change the bus speed? cpuz showing 99.80mhz? I dont see an option in bios to change the bus speed to 100mhz or is there an option? Or is that just what ryzen runs at? Or will using p-state to overclock fix that? I havent tried p-state yet. Or is there another option that i need to disable to correct that?

current manual settings:

Boot training - disabled
LLC - level 2
LLC SOC - level 2
C6 - disabled
Global C - disabled
HPET - disabled (AMD stated disable this setting via bios or windows for manual overclock, but keep enabled for ryzen master overclock)

Am i missing something?

and i have two cpu voltages...? one in manual cpu settings and one after fixed voltage setting, why are there two?

any info is appreciated, thanks!
post #99 of 169
Updated to 2.1 but still cant get my ram above the stock 2133 no matter what i set the timings too. I miss 1.3 at least with that one i could boot into xmp 2666 profile. Every single bios update after that point has dont nothing but make it worse. I am thinking about buying a Taichi or the Asus x370 board as i see tons of people booting to 2999 or above on the Taichi no issues just using the xmp profiles. And Asus has the DOCP settings that work perfect for every person i have seen. It is stupid that i have to sit here and spend hours and hours trying random different timings just trying to get the minimum ram speed i paid for. Asrock is just supporting their higher end boards. they probably just want us to buy the better board. Which i will probably buy by end of day. I am done with this I need my ram to run at a minimum of 2666 and asrock obviously has no intention in fixing their bios.
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Using Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz 2x8GB Ver4.24 (2 ranks Samsung E-die chips) on Asrock Fatality K4 with bios ver2.10, only stable at 2666mhz
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