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Furyx was my first ever gpu with and AIO cooler. Ive had air cooled and custom water blocks also. There are many aftermarket solutions for gpu cooling for furyx. I dont even understand why it coming with an AIO is even a thought. I see this argument on titan gpus, when someone says it throttles with stock cooler and then the next post is "well people who buy these are going to put them under water" I guess this only applies to nvidia, but its cool.

Me personally if i were buying a titan right now i would love for it to come with an AIO. After having a gpu AIO its as close to custom water as you will get. You dont see me trolling nvidia threads about its lack of AIO.....

Sorry, but a 120mm fan slapped on a cheap 120mm rad is nothing like custom water.

It's like saying Corsair H45/H55 is as good as a quality block in a custom/quality loop. It's not even close.
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The Fury X AIO is more like an H80i given the rad thickness and the quality of the nidec fan is hard to beat. What impressed me with the Fury line of products was how AMD's AIO design got better with each iteration. As you can see below, the fury X isn't as pristine underneath in comparison to the pro duo.





The design and implementation improved substantially. If anything it showed they were learning and were getting better. I'd definitely be interested in a reference Vega part that comes standard with an AIO. It just takes away any worry of thermal throttling and leaves headroom for potential OC especially when running multiple cards.
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I've had 4 cards with passive fans below 60C. They did not spin up a single time when idle. I could see this being a problem if you live in a very hot place, with no AC. I got AC.
But even then, you could just set the RPM at >800 RPM when idle, which will be much quieter than the Fury X.

The fan is not the reason why Fury X has a high idle noise level. The pump is. It's a very cheap unit. Same as cheap AIO CPU coolers, which are also noisy when "idle". I've tried 3 different Fury X's, all of them were noisy in idle, and 2 of them had insane coilwhine. Last one had what I would consider above average coilwhine.

Good custom cooled cards are nowhere near 40dB.
Not many people buy reference designs, unless they watercool it anyway.

Most good custom cards are in the 30-35dB range. Most people can live with fans humming, when they play games anyway, and often wearing headphones/headsets. Most people will get far more irritated with constant noise, when they are doing work etc.

Latest custom 1080 Ti review from TPU:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/GTX_1080_Ti_Xtreme_Gaming/

I hope that AMD will let AIB partners use the full Vega chip, for quality custom cards. But I'm sure AMD has learned from Fury X.

Sorry your experience was quite the opposite.

I'm getting 23-25 dbA when my computer is idle and is being measured 8 inches away from my case. Maybe my Fury X is a lucky unit, but it is also one of the last units produced since I bought it when it was discontinued and priced at $380. No coil whine, nor pump noise.
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Sorry, but a 120mm fan slapped on a cheap 120mm rad is nothing like custom water.

It's like saying Corsair H45/H55 is as good as a quality block in a custom/quality loop. It's not even close.

The Fury X AIO is pretty good, at least enough to stop me from buying a fullcover block. This is from a guy who used EK full cover waterblocks/backplates in the last 2 GPUs and universal waterblocks on my 5870 Crossfire setup prior to those 2. I'm not saying it's the best, but it's much better than any custom aircooler when it maxes out at low 50C vs 70C+.

Crappy AIO units are still within 5C of a full-blown custom loop, which is something even I can admit despite always preferring custom loop over AIO. I still don't see why people are okay with a $1200 Titan XP throttling due to overheating, but complains when a $380 Fury X has a AIO cooler. Please don't tell me that you can slap a waterblock on a Titan X, since that raises the price by an extra $135 on top of the $1200, not including a $44 backplate.
    
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GPUs with inactive fans can be annoying when they are constantly turning on and off. I'd rather hear a constant hum that can be ignored than hearing fans switch on and off every 30 seconds.

I have my own Fury X to listen to, but the whole coil whine and pump noise was a blown up issue for early batches. Mine is whisper quiet at idle, especially with the fan set to run at 5% (580RPM) until it reaches 50C, in which it's set to 20% (1150RPM) and is still very quiet. The FuryX doesn't get hotter than that during gaming, while aircooled GPUs will be screaming at 40dbA. Did you notice on the TPU review you linked that the FuryX was also one of the most quiet GPUs during load?

My PWM Gentle Typhoons running at 900RPM on my rads seem to be the "noise makers" compared to my Fury X. tongue.gif
Lol I just read the last 4 pages and you've been spamming the thread with the SAME exact comment. We get it, you don't want AIO. Who cares if the Fury X at load is low 30's dbA, while your holy grail of a Titan X is twice as loud at 40dbA? It's not like these companies cater to the masses instead of only you correct?

Jokes aside, I'm curious, but what case do you have that makes it so hard to fit an AIO cooler? How is it that you're not able to switch cases, if you're able to afford a $700-1200 GPU? My CaseLabs Mercury S3 is an ITX case, but I can easily fit in two 240mm radiators (thick and thin) as well as the FuryX's AIO cooler.

I'm not going to switch cases just for a GPU and neither do i want to dabble in watercooling,hence my stance on wanting an air cooling solution apart from an AIO, not have reference Vega locked to an AIO. There's also others who may not want to have an AIO in thier system either or have those restrictions.

And who cares if the Fury X needs to be cooled by an AIO while a Titan cools just fine on an air cooler? Means Fury X is too hot to be cooled by air?rolleyes.gif
Edited by Nickyvida - 4/8/17 at 6:13pm
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I'm not going to switch cases just for a GPU and neither do i want to dabble in watercooling,hence my stance on wanting an air cooling solution apart from an AIO, not have reference Vega locked to an AIO. There's also others who may not want to have an AIO in thier system either or have those restrictions.

And who cares if the Fury X needs to be cooled by an AIO while a Titan cools just fine on an air cooler? Means Fury X is too hot to be cooled by air?rolleyes.gif

So what case do you have that makes it difficult to fit an AIO?

Let's stop ignoring the fact that Titan X is thermally throttled by it's aircooler. Does that really not concern you?
    
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The Fury X AIO is more like an H80i given the rad thickness and the quality of the nidec fan is hard to beat. What impressed me with the Fury line of products was how AMD's AIO design got better with each iteration. As you can see below, the fury X isn't as pristine underneath in comparison to the pro duo.





The design and implementation improved substantially. If anything it showed they were learning and were getting better. I'd definitely be interested in a reference Vega part that comes standard with an AIO. It just takes away any worry of thermal throttling and leaves headroom for potential OC especially when running multiple cards.

Or you could do what I did and spend an extra $60 on case fans and have a crap ton of them getting stupid loud for hundreds of hours trying to keep a decent smooth framerate with 2.5 year old NVidia gpus in sli playing W3. A factory AIO on a flagship gpu that cools ram and vrm would be such a luxury. Especially if you want 2 like me.

If someone thinks a blower is good enough for a flagship NVidia gpu, I say: wait until next year.

Edit: On that gpu, that is.
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So what case do you have that makes it difficult to fit an AIO?

Let's stop ignoring the fact that Titan X is thermally throttled by it's aircooler. Does that really not concern you?

Which part of i do not want to dabble in WC myself do you not understand? rolleyes.gif I'm speaking for those who can't mount it due to casing restrictions.


Let's stop ignoring the fact that the Titan X outperforms Fury X even on air.rolleyes.gif
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Which part of i do not want to dabble in WC myself do you understand? rolleyes.gif I'm speaking for those who can't mount it due to casing restrictions.


Let's stop ignoring the fact that the Titan X outperforms Fury X even on air.rolleyes.gif

You keep saying casing restrictions throughout all the pages, so you've really made me curious what case you have. Why do you keep bringing up the point when you can't even say what case you use? Sounds awfully fishy to me.

Yes Titan X outperforms Fury X, but does so at 3x the price. Even if you're talking about 1080Ti, it's still double the price, although I'd say the 1080Ti can be worth it if using custom cards since it can provide 1.5-2x the performance.
    
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Case restrictions = not a true modder.
If I can fit 2X AIO in a xbox 360 case with itx build any one should be able to fit atleast 1 in a normal case.
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You keep saying casing restrictions throughout all the pages, so you've really made me curious what case you have. Why do you keep bringing up the point when you can't even say what case you use? Sounds awfully fishy to me.

Yes Titan X outperforms Fury X, but does so at 3x the price. Even if you're talking about 1080Ti, it's still double the price, although I'd say the 1080Ti can be worth it if using custom cards since it can provide 1.5-2x the performance.

I was speaking for others. If that's fishy to you, i have news for you, you're being too oversensitive. I don't dabble in WC and never will, hence my resistance to the AIO system and neither do i want a cut down like a Fury taking off 10% performance just to have air cooling. If a Fury can be air cooled, why can't an X without any performance penalty?rolleyes.gif
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