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I was speaking for others. If that's fishy to you, i have news for you, you're being too oversensitive. I don't dabble in WC and never will, hence my resistance to the AIO system and neither do i want a cut down like a Fury taking off 10% performance just to have air cooling. If a Fury can be air cooled, why can't an X without any performance penalty?rolleyes.gif

Gotcha, so first you said you can't fit an AIO in your case due to complications and now you're speaking for others when no one else here is complaining about "case restrictions"? I guess this is proof that you can't even get your own story straight. Call me sensitive all you want, but if I'm calling you out on your own statement inconsistencies and you can't even provide me a simple thing as the case you use, there's nothing more I can say except you're simply here to just bait/troll us. Please put money where your mouth is.

I can fit a 120mm AIO in just about any ITX case as almost all of them have a 120-140mm fan slot and the actual dimensions of the Fury X is smaller than any other high-performance GPU offered by both AMD and Nvidia, aside from the Fury Nano. If you can't fit a Fury X in your case, you definitely can't fit a full-sized GPU from either company.
    
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Gotcha, so first you said you can't fit an AIO in your case due to complications and now you're speaking for others when no one else here is complaining about "case restrictions"? I guess this is proof that you can't even get your own story straight. Call me sensitive all you want, but if I'm calling you out on your own statement inconsistencies and you can't even provide me a simple thing as the case you use, there's nothing more I can say except you're simply here to just bait/troll us. Please put money where your mouth is.

I can fit a 120mm AIO in just about any ITX case as almost all of them have a 120-140mm fan slot and the actual dimensions of the Fury X is smaller than any other high-performance GPU offered by both AMD and Nvidia, aside from the Fury Nano. If you can't fit a Fury X in your case, you definitely can't fit a full-sized GPU from either company.

Yes, sorry for being a newbie.

It's a bit of both. My heatsink will be in the way, and i don't have space for dual Vega X AIO's because im intending to crossfire Vega and, that's assuming if if i even wanted to take a chance on AIOs. My case is an NZXT Phantom if you're so interested in what it is. rolleyes.gif I have all my fan slots fully taken by case and additional fans

Some people have preferences, for me i prefer a simple plug and play air cooling system straight out of the box without an AIO, just a blower or custom AIB cards.
Edited by Nickyvida - 4/8/17 at 7:36pm
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Eh, fitting an (or even more than one) AIO cooler in most cases is pretty simple and not in any way an obstacle. I'm not a huge fan of AIO solutions for GPU's simply because they aren't as aesthetically pleasing as air or proper water blocks but "not fitting in a case" is a very niche issue that most people won't have.
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Yes, sorry for being a newbie.

It's a bit of both. My heatsink will be in the way, and i don't have space for dual Vega X AIO's because im intending to crossfire Vega and, that's assuming if if i even wanted to take a chance on AIOs. My case is an NZXT Phantom if you're so interested in what it is. rolleyes.gif I have all my fan slots fully taken by case and additional fans

Some people have preferences, for me i prefer a simple plug and play air cooling system straight out of the box without an AIO, just a blower or custom AIB cards.

See that's all I wanted and I really had to try hard to get you to tell me why you kept saying it wouldn't fit well in your case, when it would with some changes. Now it makes sense why you wouldn't want an AIO (or two).

I don't care if Vega either has an aircooler or has an AIO cooler, but it will for sure be getting a waterblock when I get one. If it's over 1080Ti performance, it's gonna be an insta-buy for me, although I realistically don't see AMD pulling out a huge performance boost out of thin air compared to what they have shown in the past demos. If it is around 1080 performance, then I will probably wait for prices to drop a bit seeing as there won't be a huge gain over the Fury X.
    
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Vega probably won't beat the 1080Ti, at least at 1080p, but at 4K or in DX12 it might surprise people. At any rate, with Ryzen's debut and a strong Vega it will finally be sensible to build an all-AMD rig again and that makes me very happy. Intel and Nvidia still make amazing stuff (none of this silly "Intel is dead" or "Nvidia is finished" crap from me) but I've never built an AMD rig before and I think a 1700X with 3200MHz DDR4 paired with a couple of Vega's would be right up there at the very top of the high end PC hierarchy while being extremely affordable.
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Vega probably won't beat the 1080Ti, at least at 1080p, but at 4K or in DX12 it might surprise people. At any rate, with Ryzen's debut and a strong Vega it will finally be sensible to build an all-AMD rig again and that makes me very happy. Intel and Nvidia still make amazing stuff (none of this silly "Intel is dead" or "Nvidia is finished" crap from me) but I've never built an AMD rig before and I think a 1700X with 3200MHz DDR4 paired with a couple of Vega's would be right up there at the very top of the high end PC hierarchy while being extremely affordable.

same here, my last Amd system was with the Amd Athlon 64 back in 2003~2004. Now it is time to put my Q6600 to rest. Hoping all the Ryzen and AM4 motherboard get ironed out in terms of stability and ram OC and really hope VEGA will be 1080ti level!! A complete AMD rig would be indeed very glorious!!
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I'm just hanging for the 4K Vega benchmarks, as I think it will really shine at high resolutions. Hurry up AMD mad.gif
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Sorry your experience was quite the opposite.

I'm getting 23-25 dbA when my computer is idle and is being measured 8 inches away from my case. Maybe my Fury X is a lucky unit, but it is also one of the last units produced since I bought it when it was discontinued and priced at $380. No coil whine, nor pump noise.
The Fury X AIO is pretty good, at least enough to stop me from buying a fullcover block. This is from a guy who used EK full cover waterblocks/backplates in the last 2 GPUs and universal waterblocks on my 5870 Crossfire setup prior to those 2. I'm not saying it's the best, but it's much better than any custom aircooler when it maxes out at low 50C vs 70C+.

Crappy AIO units are still within 5C of a full-blown custom loop, which is something even I can admit despite always preferring custom loop over AIO. I still don't see why people are okay with a $1200 Titan XP throttling due to overheating, but complains when a $380 Fury X has a AIO cooler. Please don't tell me that you can slap a waterblock on a Titan X, since that raises the price by an extra $135 on top of the $1200, not including a $44 backplate.

Well it's good that you're happy with your card. My experience with Fury X just wasn't good and since my PC is very silent (semi-passive PSU, 5v Noctua's on rads + casefans, no HDDs) all the Fury X were highly noticable in idle.

People that spend 1200$ on a GPU (or several of them) probably don't care spending 100-150$ more. Personally I would never pay that much for a GPU.
If I was not using watercooling, I'd pick Custom 1080 Ti over Titan X(p) any day. Paying 500$ for 5-10% more performance (and a louder card, idle and load) does not seem that good of a deal to me.

My next GPU will be Vega, if it doesn't disappoint obviously. If so I'll wait for Volta. Luckily I'm not in a rush. My 980 Ti with OC is at 1080 level performance.
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Vega probably won't beat the 1080Ti, at least at 1080p, but at 4K or in DX12 it might surprise people. At any rate, with Ryzen's debut and a strong Vega it will finally be sensible to build an all-AMD rig again and that makes me very happy. Intel and Nvidia still make amazing stuff (none of this silly "Intel is dead" or "Nvidia is finished" crap from me) but I've never built an AMD rig before and I think a 1700X with 3200MHz DDR4 paired with a couple of Vega's would be right up there at the very top of the high end PC hierarchy while being extremely affordable.

It had better soundly beat it. AMD essentially skipped a year on the high end by not bringing 1 or 2 big polaris GPUs to the fight vs GP104 and GP102. So essentially with vega we should be getting the volta competitor. If big vega is 500mm2 and does not clearly beat the 1080Ti to submission, then AMD will suffer badly when volta hits. No way to sugarcoat this. 480 was a relative success but the PC gaming market is moving fast towards higher price points. AMD successfully restablished itself to the high end CPU world but the 1070,1080,OG Titan XP and 1080Ti have been uncontested. Hell the Titan is getting discontinued without facing competition for its entire lifespan and the 104 duo will effectively run a full year like that too. The masses of dedicated gamers that used 970s and 290/390s (which also influence their peers) want no 480s or 1060s.
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Unless Vega match or beat 1080Ti, it will be yet another card that will barely pay for manufacturing/engineering cost and a tiny bit more. Barely making any sales and any profit.

If its a GTX 1080 card, why are they even bothering? Destroying their reputation further?
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