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AIO with a high flow quick release?

Meh just AIO lol
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Hawaii was a very strong release as was Polaris. Fiji was underwhelming only because the clock speeds were so limited but it was more of an HBM showcase than a real competitor to the 980Ti. In any case, price is probably the most important consideration (or should be) in a GPU purchase. Sure if you want the absolute fastest GPU there is then Nvidia has been on top for a while now, but you really only need a GPU to do what you need at the lowest price you want to spend. If you have a 1080p 60Hz monitor what on Earth do you need a Titan X for? A $180 RX 480 would fit the bill just fine. I run 1440p 60Hz monitors on my gaming rig and would be quite happy with the performance of a couple of Fury X's or 1070's for less than the price of a 1080Ti, for instance. Now when I built this system I had the cash to burn and wanted the very best so I got Titans, but I certainly didn't NEED them. My 7970's were doing just fine at the time.
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From thier track record of being behind Nvidia almost every release? Polaris through Hawaii.. Nothing much has changed. Its always been the same old gated record playing since then. Hype it up, only to fail just like the OC's dream etc.

That same line of thinking can apply to Rysen too. Did you predict its abysmal failure as well?

Its quite obvious where AMD were pouring their resources the last few years and it wasn't in the GPU group. Rysen is out now and hopefully generating cash flow they can put towards their next GPU. Yes they skipped the high end (and even mid-tier imho) this round, but that doesn't mean Vega will be a failure.

Like always, wait for the 3rd party benches. And also, which new to me, wait for benches that go against the grain. As we've seen with Rysen, its gaming performance is actually quite good on AMD GPUs.. Something we couldn't see when the press always benched with a 1080 GTX
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I think it's obvious that AMD doesn't have anything to out-do 1080 Ti, any time soon. Look, this was America's tax season -- and NVidia took FULL advantage of it, by releasing the 1080Ti as a great deal and the Xp as the top dog all within this time frame. What a missed opportunity for AMD, if they had anything to compete; or may be they just don't think the tax season of one of the most wealthiest nations is viable enough. They clearly are railing onto high-volume and value-based strategy world-wide at any time. Not a good sign for Vega performance...
 
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I don't see how availability and performance have anything to do with each other. Are you saying that if Vega performed better it would somehow be ready for market sooner? The point about mixing tax season is valid, and not ideal for sales numbers but I can't see how that has any relevance to the performance of the card itself.
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I think it's obvious that AMD doesn't have anything to out-do 1080 Ti, any time soon. Look, this was America's tax season -- and NVidia took FULL advantage of it, by releasing the 1080Ti as a great deal and the Xp as the top dog all within this time frame. What a missed opportunity for AMD, if they had anything to compete; or may be they just don't think the tax season of one of the most wealthiest nations is viable enough. They clearly are railing onto high-volume and value-based strategy world-wide at any time. Not a good sign for Vega performance...

Seem like something Nvidia enthusiasts would think. I seriously doubt very many people are going think "tax return blow it all on a gpu/s" When i go to buy a gpu i have the money on hand, or maybe most would just use credit card even. When you have to think of using a tax return amount of money for buying gpu's then maybe it's too much money to begin with. Nvidia may be UN-opposed on high end gpu right now however they are charging way too much for what your getting. If you think the 1080ti is a "great deal" then you are in the minority of consumers. Most people are going to spend roughly 100-300$ max. AMD has traditionally released gpus around q2 for the last few cycles at least.

If your wanting to target a "season" for gpu sales maybe try releasing before xmas? People are convinced Vega will fail on performance, not unreasonable to think this. Why you have to convince everyone else this is so, before anything solid is released is beyond me.
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Yeah in another reality you guys are living in.

Vega will fall short of the mark again just as Polaris, Fiji and Hawaii was. Over promising and underdelivering every release every single time. Good pricing is all they have.

Now I'm inclined to think you're just a cynical person who can't find happiness with any product lol

If you're buying into any hype, then you will always set yourself up for disappointment.
    
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Now I'm inclined to think you're just a cynical person who can't find happiness with any product from AMD lol

If you're buying into any hype, then you will always set yourself up for disappointment.

Fixed your quote....
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I can see there being a bigger Vega out there. AMD has been awfully secretive about it. Would not be surprised if they released a MASSIVE card that will be pricey and a power hog but destroy the 1080ti.

AMD never held back chips. What you see at launch is their fastest offering.
They have released timely refreshes, but nothing on the scale of what Nvidia does when releasing three models with the same chip, Titan X, 1080Ti and Titan Xp.
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as we have seen in the past, they will drag their feet, delay it again (arent they already delayed at least twice for vega?)

I wouldny be surprised if it doesnt launch until September. They are probably refining BIOS and tweaking drivers to stay relevant for the 2 months or less prior to the 10 series refresh, one again being behind...
Then they will perhaps rebrand yet another card, and then the 20 series will wipe them off the face of the earth, again. I hope they can just get it together!! and NOT take 5 years to do something about it.

AMD still want to put HBM in consumer cards. That's will always cause production delays.
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