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To be fair AMD has been riding GCN for like 5 and half years!

How long has Intel been riding the core design?
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post #432 of 566
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Originally Posted by coupe View Post

How long has Intel been riding the core design?

Depends on how you look at it. In the strictest of definitions, Nehalem (2008) is without a doubt the arch that serves as the blueprint for everything that came after. They are all incremental updates of It, nobody can deny that. Of course nehalem itself was an enhanced conroe core (2006) , wider,with SMT, reworked cache system etc. etc. But the differences between the two are significant. And if course all modern intel x86 cores trace their lineage back to the 1995 pentium pro. Although this is akin to saying modern english ultimately derives from proto-germanic language-It is technically true but english has evolved so far away from that ancient tongue and incorporated so many different elements (from romance languages, other germanic languages or Greek), which makes the comparison kinda moot. Same with Core - it started with pentium Pro but it has dna from both netburst and even AMD64 CPUs.
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AMD has already screwed up the release of VEGA.


Back in December the VEGA driver code AMD tried to submit to Linux kernel devs for inclusion into the Linux kernel was denied for being sloppy and unmanageable. The merge window for the 4.12 kernel, which is scheduled for release about the same time as VEGA, is already closed. Only OpenCL compute will be functional at release on Linux, unless the inferior proprietary beta driver is used, which is only supported on specific versions of Ubuntu, Fedora and CentOS.
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AMD has already screwed up the release of VEGA.


Back in December the VEGA driver code AMD tried to submit to Linux kernel devs for inclusion into the Linux kernel was denied for being sloppy and unmanageable. The merge window for the 4.12 kernel, which is scheduled for release about the same time as VEGA, is already closed. Only OpenCL compute will be functional at release on Linux, unless the inferior proprietary beta driver is used, which is only supported on specific versions of Ubuntu, Fedora and CentOS.

Once again another extremely small and almost irrelevant issue. AMD isn't big like Nvidia, they are having to make do with what they can. So people in this thread are saying vega is a fail because of linux drivers, and it coming with an AIO, because it has HBM etc...

I thought it would be much simpler on the basis of performance and price metrics. So now that we know Vega has already failed i guess we all just go buy some nvidia gpus that cost as much as a house mortgage or tax returns.....



Whew! here i thought i was going to have to buy vega from that dumpster fire company AMD who always release junk!!!

+100 nvidia cool guy points! /s
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Once again another extremely small and almost irrelevant issue. AMD isn't big like Nvidia, they are having to make do with what they can. So people in this thread are saying vega is a fail because of linux drivers, and it coming with an AIO, because it has HBM etc...

I thought it would be much simpler on the basis of performance and price metrics. So now that we know Vega has already failed i guess we all just go buy some nvidia gpus that cost as much as a house mortgage or tax returns.....



Whew! here i thought i was going to have to buy vega from that dumpster fire company AMD who always release junk!!!

+100 nvidia cool guy points! /s

I didn't say it was a fail, I still plan on buying one....AMD's commitment to Linux and open source is the reason why I want to buy AMD......but to not have it usable on release is a major disappointment.
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AMD has already screwed up the release of VEGA.


Back in December the VEGA driver code AMD tried to submit to Linux kernel devs .....

To be blunt, most gaming pc are not running Linux. In fact, most PCs aren't running Linux. Outside of Linux users, no one cares. Its irrelevant for the Vega launch.
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I didn't say it was a fail, I still plan on buying one....AMD's commitment to Linux and open source is the reason why I want to buy AMD......but to not have it usable on release is a major disappointment.

AMD's Linux drivers have been inferior to Nvidia's for as long as I can remember.

I doubt it will impact Vega sales.
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To be blunt, most gaming pc are not running Linux. In fact, most PCs aren't running Linux. Outside of Linux users, no one cares. Its irrelevant for the Vega launch.

I'm glad AMD doesn't have same attitude towards Linux as you.
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AMD's Linux drivers have been inferior to Nvidia's for as long as I can remember.

I doubt it will impact Vega sales.

AMD drivers have gotten much better now that they are open source, plus vulkan seems to give them a boost the way DX12 does on windows.
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Why do you think they have a different attitude towards Linux? All he's saying is that a driver delay won't ruin the entire launch. And AMD's attitude towards Linux will just make those drivers exist eventually, if a bit late..
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From MI25's TFLOP rating we can say it will be at clocked around 1525 MHz, is this safe to say?
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