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post #81 of 228
i heard people getting problems with memory Cyle rates @ 1t, dont know if thats related in anyway? maybe try underclocking them alot see if it works, also try switching the one stick to make sure ones not dead or something just a thought.

does anyone know how to change the cycle rates in the bios i cant seem to find it? frown.gif
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post #82 of 228
I have a Ryzen 1700 + MSI X370 gaming pro carbon. The board came with 1.1 Bios and it was pretty rough start because I didnt got my board boot up properly. I had to change my Gpu to different pcie slot to get picture on my monitor on every boot, I did manage install Bios 1.2 from the USB drive and after that everything works. Hoping that MSI provides new Bios soon, because I like to disable HPET from the Bios!
post #83 of 228
Alright, I'm done building/fighting with my Gaming Pro Carbon for now. I'm using 4x8GB so it was a bit harder. I have an R7 1700. I did manage to get them to run at 2133MHz CL14 at 1.35V. All ram passed a single pass of memtest86. However, after using the chipset drivers and stuff from the accompanied disc onto a clean W10, I started getting terrible instability. I discarded that install and made a clean install with the creators update, mostly letting windows update take care of drivers. I've got a stable system now. Also where the heck are LLC and SoC voltage?
post #84 of 228
Man the growing pains on Ryzen kill me. AMD makes good stuff but it's plagued with unfortunate issues.

This stuff should have been sorted out long before release.

It's my understanding that board manufacturers didn't have time to prepare for Ryzen.

What a shame.
post #85 of 228
There's a bug with the bios where it gets stuck in an unstable state. I pushed the board a bit with trying to run 2400MHz CL16 at 1V NB and 1.35V ram. It started resetting my display to "no signal" every 5-10 seconds at a steady pace. Even when I changed my settings back to what they were before, the display reset bug continued even in-bios. I took the power cable out/flipped switch and held the power button down for a bit, then did a jumper reset. The bug was gone with stock. Loaded my last overclocking profile, works fine. Toned the settings down slightly and settled on a relaxed overclock.

I'm going to stop at these rough results until we get some more mature bios, hopefully a version with AGESA 1.0.0.4. Don't want to push my dram/nb voltages to compensate for very unfinished bios.

R7 1700@3,8GHz on 1.2625V in bios, but HWInfo64 is showing a CPU core voltage peak of 1.237V. In a 60-minute run of P95 small FFTs, tDie and package power max out at 60C and 108W respectively as reported by HWInfo64 v.5.50-3130.
2 packs of F4-3000C14D-16GTZ making for a total of 4x8GB@2133MHz 14-14-14-34, Samsung ICs. DRAM Voltage 1.35V, NB voltage on Auto (0.904V)

Oh, and I can hear an electric noise floor on the onboard audio if I turn my amp up (to unlistenable levels). I tested with a Sound Blaster Z that my amp (O2) has no noise at all at max. Headphones used are Sennheiser HD600. With this motherboard's implementation of the ALC1220, you can hear a buzzing noise when you drag the volume up and down at extreme volumes. To be specific, there is a tick sound every time you hit a number on the 0-100 scale. The noise floor and operation noise are not an issue in everyday use however since they are not audible at normal listening levels. My ALC892 on the Asrock z77pro3 is much lower quality than this board's audio. This is ALC1220 implementation is comparable to my Sound Blaster Z in subjective sound quality. The noise floor was much lower (pretty much non-existent) on my Sound Blaster Z OEM version but I can't tell a large difference in audio quality right away like I could with the ALC892 vs. the SBZ. I think that the SBZ isn't a worthwhile upgrade from this particular board's onboard audio if mainly thinking about audio quality. However, Nahimic 2's virtual surround seems to kinda worsen sound quality, at least judging by what it does to audio coming from YouTube videos. I think if I upgrade my sound chain while on this build, I may go with Sound Blaster ZxR for better virtual surround or maybe just get an ODAC to go with my O2.

Excellent audio for onboard. Explosive price-performance audio solution.
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I discarded that install and made a clean install with the creators update, mostly letting windows update take care of drivers. I've got a stable system now. Also where the heck are LLC and SoC voltage?


yeah i cant find the soc voltage either.
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Hey guys, I am encountering a problem. I have just finished my 1st rig but it won't boot with 2 ram sticks installed.

I have recently get my 1st rig and it is AMD 1700 + MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon. I believe I installed everything correctly. It boots normally with only one ram installed.

With 2 ram installed, the led and everything turns on, but the screen remain nothing and cannot even get into bios.

I tried play around withe ram setting. With only one ram installed, it default at 2133 MHz and can reach 2993MHz manually without changing anything else. I have tried 3200MHz with 1.35v but it doesn't work.

I have also tried 1.35v @ 2133MHz with 2 ram installed, it just doesn't boot. Basically, the system won't boot with 2 rams.

I understand most ram won't achieve it default frequency in AM4 mobo, but I haven't seen people fail to boot with 2 ram sticks with AM4 mobo.

Please someone help me out Orz. any advise will be appreciated.

My build:

AMD Ryzen 7 1700

MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon

G.Skill Trident Z 3200MHz C16

MSI Geforce GTX 1070 Gaming X

Corsair TX550m

Update here:

I successfully boot my pc with 2 rams by underclocking it to 1333MHz @ 1.2V. Then I tried to increase the frequency step by step (1333 > 1666 > 1800 > .......), and it now reaches 2933MHz with 2 ram without any problem, but still cannot achieve 3200MHz as most AM4 mobo.

It is strange since I couldn't boot with 2 ram @ 2133MHz before underclocking. Can anyone explain ph34r-smiley.gif ?
post #88 of 228
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Update here:

I successfully boot my pc with 2 rams by underclocking it to 1333MHz @ 1.2V. Then I tried to increase the frequency step by step (1333 > 1666 > 1800 > .......), and it now reaches 2933MHz with 2 ram without any problem, but still cannot achieve 3200MHz as most AM4 mobo.

It is strange since I couldn't boot with 2 ram @ 2133MHz before underclocking. Can anyone explain ph34r-smiley.gif ?

What the heck? My stable limit was 2133MHz Cl14 before with even 2400MHz CL16 leading to serious issues, but when I just went through all of them in order at 1.35V with A-XMP disabled, now I booted to Windows 10 just fine and am stress testing my ram at 2667MHz CL14. 2933Mhz led to a bootloop and needed jumper reset, with 1V NB voltage having no effect. Probably would need to go over 1.35V on the memory.

4x8GB at 2666MHz, not too shabby. Thank you for the tip.
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Update here:

I successfully boot my pc with 2 rams by underclocking it to 1333MHz @ 1.2V. Then I tried to increase the frequency step by step (1333 > 1666 > 1800 > .......), and it now reaches 2933MHz with 2 ram without any problem, but still cannot achieve 3200MHz as most AM4 mobo.

It is strange since I couldn't boot with 2 ram @ 2133MHz before underclocking. Can anyone explain ph34r-smiley.gif ?

ill give this ago tonight!
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post #90 of 228
I bought this and an asus prime pro x370 and i've noticed the asus gets better cine bench scores even clocked lower, and not only that it overclocks higher.

I'd rather keep this board because it looks much nicer but can anyone think of a reason for this? Has asus released the new AGESA in their bios and msi hasn't or something? Or is the prime pro just a better board?
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