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post #1091 of 1171
For me it's not the blacks, they don't even show blacks in the video samples, it's bright colors that turn all yellow, saturation goes to hell, and so on, it looks so washed out and bright colors get a big amount of shift such as white gets to be yellow.
I guess it's related to their black level angles but it's in fact the bright colors that are problematic and shift a lot. Blacks get brighter and whites darker with strong yellow tint, the blacks, fine suck but not as bad as the bright colors shift to me.

I see, only recently they started to do monitors, I normally check them for headphones.
post #1092 of 1171
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Originally Posted by Fanu View Post

no vesa mount ?
It has VESA.
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There is a thread for this monitor I think.
And it showed as LG panel, I'm not sure, but I doubt LG uses Samsung panels, maybe AUO they would, I don't remember their history. LG usually makes their own panels as does Samsung.
They also made the new IPS ultrawides 100Hz native.

32" 1440p is too low resolution for me. Needs 4k.

Samsung LSM315DP01 is C32HG70, curved, the LG 32GK850 is not cured it seems. So a different panel.
There is also another AUO panel in 32" size VA but with no notes on refresh, again a Q3 2017 date so it's recent to be launched.

M315DVR01.0 is curved again, so not that one.
I doubt LG just made their first VA panel, they've used AUO in the past for TN maybe AHVA/IPS too.

I'm aware those panels are curved but is it not possible they specially requested to get them before the curving process?
Maybe when its released we'll find out it's a M315DVR01.2 and its just a flat version of 1.0, there's already a 1.1 which is just 75hz.
They specify 31.5" so I don't think it would be that 32" which is also brighter and with HDR unless they can change those.

Is this going to be the only other flat high refresh rate VA since the FG2421/HKC X3?
That seems weird but I think it's true, everything is curved, everything.
It's just LG that's like, nah we'll take flat please.

I know this is a Samsung thread but we're really all here just for high hz VA's and it just happens Samsung has been running that show alone. It's still possible it could be a Samsung panel like its been from every high hz VA the past few years, AUO has been absent.
Edited by Hunched - 11/24/17 at 1:58pm
post #1093 of 1171
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It has VESA.
I doubt LG just made their first VA panel, they've used AUO in the past for TN maybe AHVA/IPS too.

I'm aware those panels are curved but is it not possible they specially requested to get them before the curving process?
Maybe when its released we'll find out it's a M315DVR01.2 and its just a flat version of 1.0, there's already a 1.1 which is just 75hz.
They specify 31.5" so I don't think it would be that 32" which is also brighter and with HDR unless they can change those.

Is this going to be the only other flat high refresh rate VA since the FG2421/HKC X3?
That seems weird but I think it's true, everything is curved, everything.
It's just LG that's like, nah we'll take flat please.

I know this is a Samsung thread but we're really all here just for high hz VA's and it just happens Samsung has been running that show alone. It's still possible it could be a Samsung panel like its been from every high hz VA the past few years, AUO has been absent.
Brighter is just backlight which in itself is a strip of LEDs, AOC uses different than Samsung in the AG322QCX, easy to swap. HDR is software nothing more.
It's pretty hard to find the precise panel used in new monitors until someone opens it up and takes photos. Even the AG322QCX is on some databases listed as AUO panel but PCM listed it as Samsung / TP Vision. I don't remember the other databases, there used to be more but it's all often wonky, sometimes just a panel database not even a monitor one.

I don't know if LG makes VA, IPS they do for sure, it's their name as well and OLED they make or buy? I think make. They make most of the higher end stuff, 8k, 5k, IPS. TNs no idea, don't remember either, checked them, didn't like them, moving on biggrin.gif They had decent TN 144Hz options though.
Have not heard or found any other panel similar to the Sharp one used in FG2421. Only the FG70 came close, curved.
post #1094 of 1171



Received my black friday C27HG70. 50% gray is perfect, but 5% test gray reveals multiple horizontal lines streching across the entire screen, and they are really visible while panning the camera in games. Defective, back it goes :/

I am trying XL2730 next, TN's gamma shift literally feels like nothing compared to this "dirty screen" effect.
Edited by Leopardi - 11/27/17 at 2:17pm
post #1095 of 1171
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Received my black friday C27HG70. 50% gray is perfect, but 5% test gray reveals multiple horizontal lines streching across the entire screen, and they are really visible while panning the camera in games. Defective, back it goes :/

I am trying XL2730 next, TN's gamma shift literally feels like nothing compared to this "dirty screen" effect.

Seems like all the C27HG70s have this problem. Or at least most of them.

Can't say anything about the XL2730 but I think that AU panel has problems of its own. But dirty screen effect can happen on ANY monitor. My U28E590 has it as well, I was dumb enough at that time to overlook it.
post #1096 of 1171
Got one of the 27inch ones from the black friday offer and I think my unit is pretty good compared to some of the ones in this thread.
Though there is a noticeable line on 10-20% gray as seen on the bottom 20% gray image. Top one is 40% gray.
(full brightness and camera phone so the colors seem bright)
The large yellowish blobs on each side are not as noticeable in person as in the picture.

I am still debating whether to keep it. I need to test with more content to see if it bothers me. I can't notice it during normal web browsing.


post #1097 of 1171
What does your 5-15% gray look like?

Seems like darker it is, the worse the uniformity.
post #1098 of 1171
At 5% the picture seems almost perfect weirdly enough. The uniformity problems are at the 10-20 range for me.

Tested with some games and in Destiny 2, I did not notice it. In Overwatch if I look at a darkish wall and pan up and down I see the line but otherwise its good.

Im still wondering what would be a better monitor for the same price (499) as all seem to have drawbacks. TN is a no go
from the start so its probably IPS but the glow is annoying...

For the Samsung, I think this unit is pretty good so trying to get a perfect one is risky. (would probably get worse one)
Most of the time, the image quality is great on this.
Edited by Tonza4 - 11/28/17 at 12:50pm
post #1099 of 1171
hello guys i just returned second pg279q (blb and yellow tint) and i though i could try chg70 but as far as i read few pages it's also some QC issues... mad.gif I though it's only IPS problems.
What about text sharpness on samsung? Tft says it's great but i have found some review on youtube which shows that the text is not so sharp.
Is slowness of VA Samsung still a problem after update?
Are you sure that lg-32GK850G is not AUO panels?
I would go dell s2716dg but color banding is really the problem in this monitor.
And I have no idea what to do... keep on trying next pg279q which could be so good monitor but due to QC issues i can't get good one or is there anything else on market now? Don't want this Acer predator, i know it has better QC but i can't stand the look.
post #1100 of 1171
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What does your 5-15% gray look like?

Seems like darker it is, the worse the uniformity.
If only people used RGB instead of %.
What is 5% 12.75/12.75/12.75 RGB? So 13/13/13?
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At 5% the picture seems almost perfect weirdly enough. The uniformity problems are at the 10-20 range for me.

Tested with some games and in Destiny 2, I did not notice it. In Overwatch if I look at a darkish wall and pan up and down I see the line but otherwise its good.

Im still wondering what would be a better monitor for the same price (499) as all seem to have drawbacks. TN is a no go
from the start so its probably IPS but the glow is annoying...

For the Samsung, I think this unit is pretty good so trying to get a perfect one is risky. (would probably get worse one)
Most of the time, the image quality is great on this.
Keep it if it's decent and you like it. I'm not rolling a dice on C27HG70 until Samsung gets reasonable with their pricing and hopefully quality as well.
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hello guys i just returned second pg279q (blb and yellow tint) and i though i could try chg70 but as far as i read few pages it's also some QC issues... mad.gif I though it's only IPS problems.
What about text sharpness on samsung? Tft says it's great but i have found some review on youtube which shows that the text is not so sharp.
Is slowness of VA Samsung still a problem after update?
Are you sure that lg-32GK850G is not AUO panels?
I would go dell s2716dg but color banding is really the problem in this monitor.
And I have no idea what to do... keep on trying next pg279q which could be so good monitor but due to QC issues i can't get good one or is there anything else on market now? Don't want this Acer predator, i know it has better QC but i can't stand the look.

PG279Q has notoriously bad quality because they messed up a few things on it.
TN, IPS, VA all have their own issues, be it new panels or older or very old. But some issues were so big on very old smaller panels.
Sharpness with Samsung VA is poor as each displayed line is split between two lines on the monitor about 1/3 + 2/3, for some reason they borked the pixel layout with almost all VA panels. But some do exist with the classic perfect layout found on TN and IPS etc.
All VAs are slow when transitioning from blacks, this HG70 especially the 32" is not fast at all you will get smearing. But to some that is acceptable where as tiny glow is not so to each their own. I would say the C27HG70 is usable if you run it with strobing enabled.
The LG no one knows really until someone buys it and opens it up.
S2716DG has it's own issues indeed.
You can get the Acer IPS models that have proper frame and newer panel revision. There are multiple versions some with the predator stand some with a classic low key office stand with red ring. If stand is bothering you, just buy a different one, it all has VESA mounts. Stand at this point of terrible monitors everywhere should be the last of one's concerns.
Hell I would buy a good monitor even if it came without a stand. 24" OLED 4k no stand, thank you biggrin.gif
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