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Ryzen 1700 stock cooler overclocking; I'm looking for a cost effective replacement to the stock cooler if needed to reach 3.7-3.8 GHz

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A friend of mine is interested in a Ryzen 7 CPU and I recommended the 1700 since it comes with a cooler and I have heard of people discussing a safe OC on all cores to around 3.7-3.8 with the stock cooler. In other places I have read that the temps are too high at 3.7-3.8 on all cores with the stock cooler. My guess is the stock cooler isn't enough to overclock to 3.7.

What cooler would allow a Ryzen to reach 3.7 GHz at the cheapest price/reasonable quality? Would the Deepcool Gammaxx 400 Slim work? Is there something better?

He has not picked out a motherboard or RAM, but his case is a CM Storm Enforcer ( https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119240 ). Thanks for any advice you guys can give!
Edited by Taylor121 - 3/13/17 at 9:28am
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I'm sure others will chime in with their experiences, but I would say that the stock cooler is actually a pretty darn good unit. I was able to hit 3.7-3.8 no issue with it on my 1700. To be completely honest, I have found that my Chip is more voltage/VRM bound than temperature bound. Hottest that I have seen it get was 68c while doing some benching with the stock cooler.

I'd say, if your friend is just looking to stay around the 3.7 range, save the money on a cooler and put it towards a better board and good RAM (maybe some better case fans). If they feel like the cooling isnt sufficient, they can get a better cooler down the road. Overall though, if I didn't already have watercooling stuff, I'd have been pretty content just letting my Ryzen chill with the inculded heatsink.
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I bought the 1700 as well and for the last week have been using the stock cooler. While it was adequate for a 3.7ghz OC, I didn't really test it hard as I am still working out a good stability testing procedure. During one run of Realbench, temps went up to over 80c so I wouldn't necessarily say it can work for all cases, but a stabilty test can drive a cpu above what any normal load wood be.

It is good looking and reasonably quiet.

Today I switched to my Swiftech H320x2 as the AM4 bracket came in the mail. My temps are much lower now. Idle is about 30c from 38-40c and during a stress test run earlier today, the cpu never went above 57c.

I do recommend the Wraith spire cooler, it looks good, and is good enough to get someone by while they save up for something else. My H320 was $170 and I added another $60 worth of Gentle Typhoons for it.

Have him use fancy cooler money for a better board and/or some good samsung b-die ram. I've had two different sets of ddr4 in my rig so far, and another tomorrow to hopefully get to the rated frequencies.
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Thank you both for the feedback.
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I just got my Ryzen 1700. I'm new to desktop gaming, so I'm going to be pushing into the overclocking tentatively. I want to start by getting 3.5 ghz, but from there I doubt I'll be going higher for a while. If anybody has any advice for a beginner to the overclocking game,
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Originally Posted by Handfuloflego View Post

I just got my Ryzen 1700. I'm new to desktop gaming, so I'm going to be pushing into the overclocking tentatively. I want to start by getting 3.5 ghz, but from there I doubt I'll be going higher for a while. If anybody has any advice for a beginner to the overclocking game,

Start with 1.25-1.3v and roughly 3.8GHz-3.9GHz

If you have top tier cooling then you can try for higher but I wouldn't with a stock cooler or 120mm fan air cooler with 4 heatpipes.

How easy or difficult OCing will be would depend on your CPU quality,RAM, cooler, and motherboard.

P.S. http://www.overclockers.com/amd-ryzen-overclocking-guide/
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