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Now you got me thinking of getting a binned proc, after all with as much as I am going to be spending on this build why should I play the silicon lottery?
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Originally Posted by Shadowline2553 View Post

Now you got me thinking of getting a binned proc, after all with as much as I am going to be spending on this build why should I play the silicon lottery?

My thoughts exactly...I have never been one to skimp on a build but this one is still going to make the record books by a mile(mostly because of the monitor and the mobo).
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post #23 of 49
Sadly to say this board is horrible, I built this board with the exact same hardware I have on my apex and just wow this board sucks. Constantly benchmarks way slower, then my apex. Riddle with bios issues from asus. Stay away from there .906 bios update for extreme board it will cause your unit to not even start. Will have to reflash older bios. Asus customer service is just a joke. Stay away unless you want a money pit of unhappiness.


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32 GB Gskill TridentZ 2*16gb (3000Mhz)

i7-7700K

2* 1070 SLI

Pacific Custom water loop 360mm radiator using supplied MonoBlock "Which is the worst I ever seen"

EVGA 1000W GQ psu

Samsung evo 850 M.2

The board looks cool, I will give it that, but nothing but a headache and for over clocking forget about it. 5.1 is about all it will do.


My Apex board with all the exact stuff and even same settings will benchmark consistently around 200 marks higher on XTU.

If you want a cool looking build go for it, but if you are looking to OC or just be Quick forget it now and save your money.

The Mono block even sucks. My other 360mm aio water cooling setup does a better job.


Extreme board gets an F- from me, as well Asus support gets an F-



Apex board now it will remain an A+ thumb.gif
Edited by XxMysticxX - 4/29/17 at 12:55pm
post #24 of 49
What problem do you have with the mono block?
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@XxxMysticxX I understand your point of view, however you are comparing a dedicated watercooler's board, that comes with all the bells and whistles that a watercooling enthusiast could ever want with a pure overclocker's board. If you don't achieve higher benchmark's on the Apex I would be concerned since that board is laser focused on that sort of thing. For me, being a watercooler this board comes with almost everything that I could ever want, and more, though I will only really be able to tell once I get a build put together with it.
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Can you specify the BIOS issues? Also what makes the block bad?
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To reply to a few of the questions and comments, @Shadowline, yes you absolutely correct it is the difference of one being directly designed for O.C, and the other not so much I guess one of my major let downs would be with Asus support. I was guaranteed this board had the same abilities as the apex with just more. It is sadly not even close. The wifi and Bluetooth is not worth the speed lost, with that being said both are way quick enough for the average person. I am just always trying to push the boundaries for more. This extreme board is extremely nice, but totally not designed for any extreme overclocking. @Thoth, The bios is the .906 "i believe" update. After updating the bios the board post 00 anytime after shutting down from windows and then attempting to power back on. Only way to solve the issue was unplug power then boot, reset bios on back then boot, or just reflash the .8** something bios which works ok. The board's waterblock supplied with it just does not keep it cool. My 7700k would stay around 8c Cooler using my other cooling setup which was just a cheap thermaltake aio 360mm closed loop cooler. I spent quite a bit buying a pacific custom cooling setup. Whole 9 yards good pump massive tubing and same size radiator with the expectations of the monoblock keeping the i7 cooler. It did not. So for that reason I was disappointed again with the board. Will say the setup looks awesome. I upgraded actually just yesterday and added another 32gb of gskill tridentz 3000mhz ram to it, "total 64gb" and the board just gets so hot even at a moderate 5ghz clock and xmp at 100.0 blk. I have tested many different pieces and built many different pcs and for a board that cost this much, even know I did get mine for free from asus, I was totally let down. I will add as well Asus tech support is a joke again. Never depend on them for answers lol. 1 out of 10 might actually know what they are speaking about. I called up after receiving the board and asked did they have any advice or recommendations on what type of cooling setup to run with the mono block and was told it did not need anything just to screw it on and let it go...... lolol.....rolleyes.gif

Good luck to any of you that choose this board I will repeat like the millionth time lol super cool looking board, but still a lot of little stuff just not right about it, and if you are looking to overclock I would strongly advise save your money buy the apex, maybe a nice cooling setup and clock away biggrin.gif
post #28 of 49
I'll just chime in with an update.

Mine is not under water yet and I haven't even tried to OC it. I will say that I have no intent of going past 5.1 GHZ on my CPU. I am more of a gamer than an OC'er.

My install inclues 2 NVME SSD and I am using Windows 7 Professional. NVME M.2_1 is my boot disk. I had to use the Microsoft DISM tool to modify the install.wim and boot.wim so that I could get native NVME support for the install. I installed Windows from a USB. Just getting into BIOS reliably and installing windows took 4-6 hours. Not counting the time it took to make the USB installation disk. Much of this extra time can be directly attributed to my choice of Windows 7 and NVME installation. If I had installed Windows 10 or or on a SATA SSD I am sure that it would have gone much faster.

A couple of things that I will note here.

I am using CORSAIR Dominator Platinum 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Desktop Memory Model CMD32GX4M2B3000C15, https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233885. This memory is not on ASUS ROG Z270 MEMORY QVL. https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-EXTREME/HelpDesk_QVL/. If the memory used is not on the QVL ASUS help desk will not even attempt to support you if the system will not boot. I had to go buy 16GB of memory that is on the QVL to get them to work with me. FWIW, CORSAIR Dominator Platinum does work with the motherboard but it will not boot with the XMP profile selected. The XMP profile timings are 3000MHZ 15-17-17-35. The trained timings that will actually boot with CORSAIR Dominator Platinum are 3000MHZ 16-18-18-36.

I should have gotten memory like G.SKILL TridentZ Series 64GB (4 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel X99 Platform Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C14Q-64GTZSW https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232349. It is on the QVL, is faster, and has tighter timings.

The RGB lights on the motherboard are bright, cheap and gaudy looking. Like an 8 year old wearing mardi gras beads to school. Good thing is that the lights can be disabled in BIOS.

NVME cooling. ASUS seems to be proud of their NVME cooling solutions. https://rog.asus.com/articles/maximus-motherboards/whats-the-best-m2-cooling-solution-rog-has-4-new-solutions/.
They ought to be ashamed. First off they present the cooling for NVME M.2_1 as water cooling. It is not. There is a 3 ounce piece of metal that sits are top of the NVME SSD and provides some heatsink functionality, and that piece directly abuts to the monoblock. The monoblock is water cooled, the piece on top of the SSD is not water cooled.

Their article neglects to mention that the second NVME slot, M.2_2 only has passive cooling. I will be leaving the plastic cover off of M.2_2 and using a NVME heatsink that I have ordered.

Right now my components are running on a bench, air cooled. Next step is to put everything in my case. My build should be complete (water-cooled) sometime this week.
Edited by HooDooMan - 4/30/17 at 11:56pm
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Sadly to say this board is horrible, I built this board with the exact same hardware I have on my apex and just wow this board sucks. Constantly benchmarks way slower, then my apex. Riddle with bios issues from asus. Stay away from there .906 bios update for extreme board it will cause your unit to not even start. Will have to reflash older bios. Asus customer service is just a joke. Stay away unless you want a money pit of unhappiness.


Asus Maximus IX Extreme

32 GB Gskill TridentZ 2*16gb (3000Mhz)

i7-7700K

2* 1070 SLI

Pacific Custom water loop 360mm radiator using supplied MonoBlock "Which is the worst I ever seen"

EVGA 1000W GQ psu

Samsung evo 850 M.2

The board looks cool, I will give it that, but nothing but a headache and for over clocking forget about it. 5.1 is about all it will do.


My Apex board with all the exact stuff and even same settings will benchmark consistently around 200 marks higher on XTU.

If you want a cool looking build go for it, but if you are looking to OC or just be Quick forget it now and save your money.

The Mono block even sucks. My other 360mm aio water cooling setup does a better job.


Extreme board gets an F- from me, as well Asus support gets an F-



Apex board now it will remain an A+ thumb.gif

I considered the Apex. If only it supported more that 32GB of DDR4 DRAM.
post #30 of 49
Ugh....after hearing all that...think I finally found the excuse to just go with AMD. Monoblocks are starting to roll out for x370 mobos...shame but not a surprise when it comes to ASUS. They have really gone downhill over time. What really kills it for me is typical ASUS BIOS crap on a board with this high a pricetag...the dude cannot abide...
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