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Sound quality is really awesome on this board (I don't have the crackling problem) smile.gif
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post #1032 of 1566
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Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

As long as the CPU is capable, they both should allow 3200. Have used both.

BCLK gen is for higher clocks or tighter subtimings we don't have access to yet.


Then what is the deal with some folks saying a board with external clkgen is better for ram past 3000?


Quote:
Try not to mix Core and RAM tweaks on a single BIOS save.


What is meant by "tweaks" here? Surely there can't be a problem with oc'ing both cpu and ram at the same time?? Do you mean blck? But going back to my first question then, why are folks saying blck is necessary for high ram speeds if you can't mess with it? I must be totally misunderstanding what folks mean by the blck feature (the Asrock name for it).



The ram issues might make me drop the Ryzen idea altogether. I'm ok losing gaming performance by going with Ryzen over 7700k. I'm not sure I'm ok going with Ryzen at 2133 ram over 7700k at 3600 ram just to support AMD.
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post #1033 of 1566
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Originally Posted by taem View Post


Then what is the deal with some folks saying a board with external clkgen is better for ram past 3000?
What is meant by "tweaks" here? Surely there can't be a problem with oc'ing both cpu and ram at the same time?? Do you mean blck? But going back to my first question then, why are folks saying blck is necessary for high ram speeds if you can't mess with it? I must be totally misunderstanding what folks mean by the blck feature (the Asrock name for it).



The ram issues might make me drop the Ryzen idea altogether. I'm ok losing gaming performance by going with Ryzen over 7700k. I'm not sure I'm ok going with Ryzen at 2133 ram over 7700k at 3600 ram just to support AMD.

 

Is your RAM listed in the Memory list?

 

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ax370-gaming-k7.pdf

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Is your RAM listed in the Memory list?

http://download.gigabyte.us/FileList/Memory/mb_memory_ga-ax370-gaming-k7.pdf



No it's not. Does buying off that list guarantee ram will work at the spec'd speed? If someone could confirm that can order a K7 and one of those ram kits right now and get away from this dual core rig I'm gaming on. I can't friggin hit my display's refresh rate on Diablo 3 right now. Jesus.
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My ram kit is not listed either but can get to 3200 cl 14 with this board without issues http://www.galax.com/en/ram/galax-hof-ddr4-3600.html

I could only get to 2933 cl14 with my previous board (Asrock Killer SLI)
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post #1036 of 1566
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Originally Posted by taem View Post

Then what is the deal with some folks saying a board with external clkgen is better for ram past 3000?
What is meant by "tweaks" here? Surely there can't be a problem with oc'ing both cpu and ram at the same time?? Do you mean blck? But going back to my first question then, why are folks saying blck is necessary for high ram speeds if you can't mess with it? I must be totally misunderstanding what folks mean by the blck feature (the Asrock name for it).



The ram issues might make me drop the Ryzen idea altogether. I'm ok losing gaming performance by going with Ryzen over 7700k. I'm not sure I'm ok going with Ryzen at 2133 ram over 7700k at 3600 ram just to support AMD.

BCLK is Base Clock
Tweaks are settings changes
BCLk generator won't be needed for 3200MHz RAM.

BCLK Generator is for those who push things over default supported speeds. i.e 3600 RAM.

And those using other boards that were not able to achieve 3200MHz RAM using 100BCLK. i.e, Crosshairs with early production BIOS.

I have used a G5 on it's early days. 3200 worked right off the bat.

Tell you the most believable fact: 2400, 2666 RAM works with almost every RAM kit out there as long as they are Single Rank/Sided sticks.

Some people who have B-Dies (the most compatible IC for Ryzen) can't still get to 3200MHz. But 2933 works. CPU-limitation for now.

7700K vs Ryzen is your call buddy. I have used both - plus 6900Ks this whole week wink.gif
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My ram kit is not listed either but can get to 3200 cl 14 with this board without issues http://www.galax.com/en/ram/galax-hof-ddr4-3600.html

I could only get to 2933 cl14 with my previous board (Asrock Killer SLI)

Those are B-Dies. Same story. wink.gif
post #1037 of 1566
Got my kit of Flare-X in the mail today.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232530

I had about 30 minutes at lunch so far to try it out. Tried 3200mhz XMP right away, and got 06 error on LED display and had to switch bios and flash to get it to boot again.

Tried 3200mhz with no XMP, auto timings, DDR4 voltage 1.35v and got same issue.

Tried 2933mhz with no XMP, 15/15/15/15/35 timings, 1.35v and it booted just fine, running stability test ATM.

All the time I had but will update with more info when I get home.
post #1038 of 1566
Try some these.

Flash BIOS F1 reboot to BIOS and set Optimised Defaults and boot to Windows.
(I just do this to make sure the corruption will be wiped by the downgrade)

Flash you intended BIOS (F3 or whatever) TWICE. Just for kicks. smile.gif

Optimised Defaults again and boot to Windows.

Reboot to BIOS and set CPU Speed + Voltages. Leave RAM untouched for now. Boot to Windows and run some bench.

Reboot back to Windows and Set XMP leaving the Timings to Auto for now. Adjust RAM Voltage to 1.45V, VSOC to 1.1V, and give VDDP some boost like 0.100 and try to reboot.

If you fail, try to Disable XMP and adjust the Timings.

This what is meant by tweaking one at a time. smile.gif Ryzen hates combined tweaks in one instance.
post #1039 of 1566
Quote:
Originally Posted by mus1mus View Post

Try some these.

Flash BIOS F1 reboot to BIOS and set Optimised Defaults and boot to Windows.
(I just do this to make sure the corruption will be wiped by the downgrade)

Flash you intended BIOS (F3 or whatever) TWICE. Just for kicks. smile.gif

Optimised Defaults again and boot to Windows.

Reboot to BIOS and set CPU Speed + Voltages. Leave RAM untouched for now. Boot to Windows and run some bench.

Reboot back to Windows and Set XMP leaving the Timings to Auto for now. Adjust RAM Voltage to 1.45V, VSOC to 1.1V, and give VDDP some boost like 0.100 and try to reboot.

If you fail, try to Disable XMP and adjust the Timings.

This what is meant by tweaking one at a time. smile.gif Ryzen hates combined tweaks in one instance.

 

Oh WOW! I have never heard anyone say anything like this when they were trying to get their RAM to work.

 

I haven't even heard of some of those settings. bigeyedsmiley.png

post #1040 of 1566
Those are just my methods. Not saying they will work for everyone. But guess, worth a try. wink.gif
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