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Finally got it Running. I Had a Problem installing Windows. seems that updating Bios to (F3) version. Solved my issue. now I am looking for help in OC and getting Ram to 3200mhz. anybody knows BIOS SETTINGS?
post #482 of 1573
3 pages back. or this:
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AuAkU2AiD24nljpx-7EggJaAkFPY

That was using F3B. F3 seems to be more stable for me.
Edited by mus1mus - 4/12/17 at 4:59am
post #483 of 1573
Hi, hello there !wink.gif


As you may already know, the G.Skill F4-3200C14D-16GFX Flare X was removed from Gigabyte QVL very little time ago (F3 bios release)... BTW, I'm on a 1700X (****ty corsair h100iv2 with useless link software as of today)

I suppose I'm not the only one currently stuck at 2933mhz with/without xmp, manual timings etc etc... etc etc...
I don't know if the subject's been treated already, I spent quite a few hours reading forums (particularly this one) in search for inspiration.

I think I tried most tricks indicated + the ones that came to my mind (single /double bios, remove batt, reflash bioses (though through the windows app) and then some....


Right no I'm tearing off what's left of my hair out trying to get to the promised 3200mhz. The fact is I DID manage to get the promised timings & speed ONCE at 3.4Ghz (on f3beta, double bios if I'm correct) then it reverted back to 2400mhz with crappy timings. (Now each time I try setting 3200, I get the infamous bootloop) I tried F2, F3 beta and F3E til now.

Now I'm wondering what to do : Keep this mem kit risking being stuck forever at 2933mhz 14 14 14 34, or have it exchanged ? I have very little time to send it back if needed. Has ANY of you managed to deal with this problem already ??
If ind myself puzzzled, having bought this supposedly "more compatible ram"... I also opened a ticket directly to Gigabyte, but found no existing answer on their forums.

I also would like to ask you if you think it's relevant to wait or go for something else, even with loosened timings (I haven't seen many kits going down to such timings 14/14/14/34... Should I favor speed (3200 cl 16) over my actual max ??? (2933 cl14) I really don't know what to do. G.skill's site still show the K7 on their QVL...

Thank your your time, and please forgive the possible mistakes as it's not my native tongue smile.gif
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post #484 of 1573
@mus1mus Please don't link to the copy on Microsoft OneDrive directly, it has been attached to a message here at this link http://www.overclock.net/attachments/47329, use that instead. I am disabling the link you provided in your response.

@Sicklysweet I better check the QVL again, I hadn't realized the Flare X RAM was removed.
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Oced?

Nope. I'm not going to mess around with OCing for at least 6 months. I assume by then BIOS will be out of beta. tongue.gif
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You don't know if any of your background processed invokes the +20 C offset even while you deem your system idle. Did you ever see straight jumps of +10 or +20 happen?

For the record, I have definitely seen this in my unscientific testing, at least on F2 (I have less time spent with F3).

I forget who specifically, but I've seen someone else, perhaps at the Anandtech or Xtremesystems forums, discussing essentially the same concept you're bringing up (i.e., that the temperature reporting is adjusted on-the-fly based-on instruction set being utilized).

When I read that the first time, it really resonated with me personally because I was seeing a lot of (seemingly) bizarre spikes in temperature at idle/semi-idle which I've never seen with any other system and any other CPU. Again, it's unscientific, but something just didn't "seem right" with Ryzen's temperature reporting.

I hope we can figure all of this out eventually. Coming from Sandy Bridge where it was very easy to get core temperatures, AMD seems to have dropped the ball somewhat, at least in terms of clearly communicating with customers regarding temperatures and temperature reporting. redface.gif
Edited by Praetorr - 4/12/17 at 7:35am
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I can 100% guarantee you, this is not what happens for me.

I get the +20 offset under idle, full load, partial load, and anything you want in-between.
I also know that the temp doesn't change if I hit 95C; Because I've seen 1800X's reporting 115C on TCTL

I, for the most part have paid attention to TCTL up to this point, but the F3 BIOS is giving me -35 from TCTL (Which, including AMD's offset, is -15 from "Real")
My CPU is definitely not idling at 50-60C under water, and not running max at 85C under water either.

Edit; Before Gigabytes F3 BIOS my "CPU" temp from motherboard was the same as TCTL

This temperature mess is all kinds of confusing. If 1.01 Ryzen Master is supposed to show the "real" Tj, then it is reporting +15 from what my mobo is say and really messing up my fan curve.





I do get random Temp spikes running Prime 95 from 64C on Ryzen Master to about 72C before lowering back down to 64C.

Currently on F3 OCed to 3.85 on 1.35V. I used to run stable at 1.3V on F2...so F3 was a downgrade on that front.
Edited by happyxix - 4/12/17 at 8:02am
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What happens when your OC fails? Mine just locks up with a black screen (fans still running, mobo still indicating "OC" ) , and I need to reboot the system myself. I've never seen a bsod or some such.

I'm currently running 3.9 @ 1.43v. The temps Tctl stays below 95° in standard IBT and Tdie below 75°, VRM MOS temps stay under 70°. So I wonder If its safe to let it run 24/7. The temps seem good to me.

Any suggestion?
Edited by colorfuel - 4/12/17 at 8:41am
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post #488 of 1573
Low Vcore - Black screen

Give it something like 0.0125, 0.0250 etc. baby steps. I find it just within 0.0125V - 0.0250V to pass. Or drop CPU Frequency by 25MHz. thumb.gif



Quote:
Originally Posted by happyxix View Post

This temperature mess is all kinds of confusing. If 1.01 Ryzen Master is supposed to show the "real" Tj, then it is reporting +15 from what my mobo is say and really messing up my fan curve.





I do get random Temp spikes running Prime 95 from 64C on Ryzen Master to about 72C before lowering back down to 64C.

Currently on F3 OCed to 3.85 on 1.35V. I used to run stable at 1.3V on F2...so F3 was a downgrade on that front.

Don't complicate yourselves too much as if the values report different stuff.

TCTL - TDIE +20
TDIE = Ryzen Master Temps
TCPU = TDIE - 15C

SKEW is not the reason for these temps. Just BIOS offset implementation.

Graph your temps and you will see they are based off a single source.

Which one would I base my temps? TDIE.
Which temp controls fans? TCPU.


Edited by mus1mus - 4/12/17 at 8:57am
post #489 of 1573
Swapped out my RAM for some Samsung B-Die (Team Group Dark Pro 3200). Boots and 3200 and so far, no issues. Will try and push a little more this evening to see if I can get upto 3400 ish.
post #490 of 1573
Well guys I hit a brick wall. Tried F3 bios, my 4 ghz oc became unstable. Tried F3D and same thing. Reverted back to F2 and now I can game at 4 ghz again. Overclocked the blck from 100 to 100.5 and got 4.02 ghz stable with 1.42 voltage LLC at extreme. Not really happy with this overclock so im returning my board and im gonna try my luck on the asus crosshair 6 hero I just ordered from the egg. Its been fun trying out a Gigabyte motherboard and I am impressed with it, hardware wise this board is excellent and memory gets to 2933 NP, gonna see what cpu oc and mem oc I can get with the crosshair thumb.gif
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