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The final piece of the puzzle has seemingly fallen into place. Hardware analysis site Tech Insights updated its own Nintendo Switch teardown with die-shot photography of the new console's Tegra processor, mooted as a custom design by the platform holder. Only here's the thing - the configuration is a match for the standard Tegra X1, as seen in the Shield Android TV.

Looks like the "custom" part of the processor is the software aspect and potentially some thermal management?

Basically Nintendo outright lied their ass off, which explains the incredible lack of performance. It also would explain why so many developers have been against the Switch and developing for it. If they are having to work down to a standard X1.....

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Not to open old wounds for some, but how does this stack compared to Nvidia's "Ramgate"? With Nvidia we have a disconnect in printed spec sheets that were fairly minor. Yet here we have what appears to be a full blown lie about the entirety of the SoC.

The only reason I could see them stating "Custom SoC" and "....based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics card", which at the time is Pascal, is with intent to deceive. It is by no stretch hard to say that a standard vanilla Tegra X1 going into the console space wouldn't be looked down upon. Anyone in the industry that covers this would have tore them apart for using such a weak SoC.

So what do they do? They state "Custom" and make claims to allude to Pascal....
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So basically Nintendo pulled an Apple ...they just slapped their name and software on a reconfigured Shield and added $100.
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I wonder if you could make a "custom" Switch if you loaded Nintendo's firmware onto an existing tablet or motherboard? I think this is the most generic a console has ever been. At least the PS4 and Xbone, while the designs were off-the-shelf, used semi-custom silicon. Consoles previously have had completely custom hardware, with the PS3's GPU being the fastest in the world at the time and the 360 being the first to offer a unified shader architecture and act as a predecessor to TeraScale.
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So basically Nintendo pulled an Apple ...they just slapped their name and software on a reconfigured Shield and added $100.

Apple designs their own SoCs, and have the fastest consumer available SoCs on the planet right now. In part to Jim Keller and his work there the last stay he had with them.

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We could only be so lucky to get an A9 in the Switch.
    
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Apple designs their own SoCs, and have the fastest consumer available SoCs on the planet right now. In part to Jim Keller and his work there the last stay he had with them.

EDIT:

We could only be so lucky to get an A9 in the Switch.

Well, their desktops aren't exactly custom beyond the motherboard and the bootloader. Even then, Hackintoshes allegedly exist (but nobody should make such a horrible device as they violate the EULA whistle.gif ) and bypass that advantage.

Hmm, do the Mac Pro's FirePros offer anything existing desktop ones don't already? It's standard AMD silicon but they are custom SKUs.

And yes Apple A9 in everything pls, at least until Nvidia makes something better.
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Well, their desktops aren't exactly custom beyond the motherboard and the bootloader. Even then, Hackintoshes allegedly exist (but nobody should make such a horrible device as they violate the EULA whistle.gif ) and bypass that advantage.

Hmm, do the Mac Pro's FirePros offer anything existing desktop ones don't already? It's standard AMD silicon but they are custom SKUs.

And yes Apple A9 in everything pls, at least until Nvidia makes something better.

We aren't comparing desktop hardware. We are talking about SoCs and how they stack up to one another in the market.

On the Desktop/Laptop note; Raven Ridge based Macs would be pretty sweet I am sure.
    
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Well, that explains why Nintendo went with the Tegra. Nvidia already did all the heavy lifting through all the years with the shield and its iterations which means more profit for nintendo.

Personally, I would rather have a Vega powered Sony handheld that's able to run PS4 ported games. Pascal might still be more efficient but porting should be easier on GCN which should make developers happy.
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I think it's more laughable to not have a prober BT antenna in a controller 50% covered by your left hand.
     
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Man do I feel lucky I dodged that bullet. I'll just enjoy my N3DS with custom firmware some time longer biggrin.gif
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Those hoping for Pascal are delusional. Pascal is currently only found in vehicles for their Drive PX2 and Jetson developer kit.
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