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[EuroGamer] Standard Tegra X1 'confirmed' as Switch's processor

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The final piece of the puzzle has seemingly fallen into place. Hardware analysis site Tech Insights updated its own Nintendo Switch teardown with die-shot photography of the new console's Tegra processor, mooted as a custom design by the platform holder. Only here's the thing - the configuration is a match for the standard Tegra X1, as seen in the Shield Android TV.
Looks like the "custom" part of the processor is the software aspect and potentially some thermal management?

Basically Nintendo outright lied their ass off, which explains the incredible lack of performance. It also would explain why so many developers have been against the Switch and developing for it. If they are having to work down to a standard X1.....

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Not to open old wounds for some, but how does this stack compared to Nvidia's "Ramgate"? With Nvidia we have a disconnect in printed spec sheets that were fairly minor. Yet here we have what appears to be a full blown lie about the entirety of the SoC.

The only reason I could see them stating "Custom SoC" and "....based on the same architecture as the world's top-performing GeForce gaming graphics card", which at the time is Pascal, is with intent to deceive. It is by no stretch hard to say that a standard vanilla Tegra X1 going into the console space wouldn't be looked down upon. Anyone in the industry that covers this would have tore them apart for using such a weak SoC.

So what do they do? They state "Custom" and make claims to allude to Pascal....
 
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I wonder if you could make a "custom" Switch if you loaded Nintendo's firmware onto an existing tablet or motherboard? I think this is the most generic a console has ever been. At least the PS4 and Xbone, while the designs were off-the-shelf, used semi-custom silicon. Consoles previously have had completely custom hardware, with the PS3's GPU being the fastest in the world at the time and the 360 being the first to offer a unified shader architecture and act as a predecessor to TeraScale.
 
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Originally Posted by thegreatsquare View Post

So basically Nintendo pulled an Apple ...they just slapped their name and software on a reconfigured Shield and added $100.
Apple designs their own SoCs, and have the fastest consumer available SoCs on the planet right now. In part to Jim Keller and his work there the last stay he had with them.

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We could only be so lucky to get an A9 in the Switch.
 
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Apple designs their own SoCs, and have the fastest consumer available SoCs on the planet right now. In part to Jim Keller and his work there the last stay he had with them.

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We could only be so lucky to get an A9 in the Switch.
Well, their desktops aren't exactly custom beyond the motherboard and the bootloader. Even then, Hackintoshes allegedly exist (but nobody should make such a horrible device as they violate the EULA
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) and bypass that advantage.

Hmm, do the Mac Pro's FirePros offer anything existing desktop ones don't already? It's standard AMD silicon but they are custom SKUs.

And yes Apple A9 in everything pls, at least until Nvidia makes something better.
 
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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

Well, their desktops aren't exactly custom beyond the motherboard and the bootloader. Even then, Hackintoshes allegedly exist (but nobody should make such a horrible device as they violate the EULA
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) and bypass that advantage.

Hmm, do the Mac Pro's FirePros offer anything existing desktop ones don't already? It's standard AMD silicon but they are custom SKUs.

And yes Apple A9 in everything pls, at least until Nvidia makes something better.
We aren't comparing desktop hardware. We are talking about SoCs and how they stack up to one another in the market.

On the Desktop/Laptop note; Raven Ridge based Macs would be pretty sweet I am sure.
 
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Well, that explains why Nintendo went with the Tegra. Nvidia already did all the heavy lifting through all the years with the shield and its iterations which means more profit for nintendo.

Personally, I would rather have a Vega powered Sony handheld that's able to run PS4 ported games. Pascal might still be more efficient but porting should be easier on GCN which should make developers happy.
 
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Originally Posted by TheReciever View Post

Here's an opinion.

I could care less, I want to play Zelda.
You would care knowing how bad Zelda runs.
 
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Originally Posted by Inelastic View Post

He said he "could care less," which means that he does care.
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I hate how people ignore graphics when it comes to Nintendo games. Zelda would have been so much better running on a high performance console/PC. I love the game but always think of the potential.
 
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Custom price
 
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Originally Posted by thegreatsquare View Post

So basically Nintendo pulled an Apple ...they just slapped their name and software on a reconfigured Shield and added $100.
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Originally Posted by SpeedyVT View Post

Well the Joycons are pretty nicely built tech.
Thinking of the problem with the left Joycon sync issues some were having mad me LOL when I remembered this......
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I got my airpods on 22nd December, everything working fine up to yesterday. Now only one airpod is shows up on my iPhone screen showing a battery percentage, more so L not showing, open the lid and the case always displays charge percentage on my iPhone screen. Same with audio, sound will only play out of one airpod, again it happens to both but more so the L airpod.
 
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Originally Posted by SpeedyVT View Post

Well the Joycons are pretty nicely built tech.
The Joycons may be the unsung heroes of the design of the Switch. There is a lot of awesome tech they built into it for the price they're selling the system at. The sheer number of configurations you can play with them is astounding, and represents the spirit of the console's mantra.

If and when we get the "New" Switch a la New 3DS style, I have no doubt the Joycons will be one of the things that will see the least customization/improvement, as it's already really good. At best, we'll see connectivity and ergonomics improvements, but the underlying tech will be intact.
 
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

Basically Nintendo outright lied their ass off, which explains the incredible lack of performance. It also would explain why so many developers have been against the Switch and developing for it. If they are having to work down to a standard X1.....

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Just like they lied about not having low volume at launch. They just announced that they're going to increase production a few days ago. Its probably going to be May when those finally get from the warehouses and to retailers.
 
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The Switch was an unfortunate idea from its very conception (to me at least). I don't want, nor do i have any interest in mobile gaming in the first place. I want a competitive home console for games like Zelda and Mario. It doesn't have to be as fast as the PS4 but it should at least be competitive. But with the Switch we basically got a new Gameboy masquerading as a home console. The use of an awful Tegra SoC is just added salt in the wound for me. BotW deserves far better than the hardware it has been hamstrung on.
 
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Originally Posted by 0451 View Post

Does Zelda run better on Switch or Wii U?
In the comparison videos I have seen the WiiU wins easily.
 
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I knew they would use Tegra X1. Because it would be cheap for them to buy. Nintendo always makes profit from day one on their system unlike Sony. Still having a great time with my Switch. With Nintendo doubling Switch production From 8 to 16 Million from April through March of 2018. They must have some heavy hitters coming. I really think Pokemon, Metroid are coming to this system. Might get to see Metroid at E3 and Pokemon on a later date or even at E3. Cant wait to see what they show at E3.
 
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