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Diseased from the inside out:
Corsair M65 Pro RGB
Finalmouse Scream One

Diseased from Philips Twin-Eye (can't pick up microadjustments):
Razer Mamba (all generation/variations)
Razer Naga (all generation/variations)
Razer Diamondback (reboot)


Gonna have to be community consensus to be added to the list.
Edited by daniel0731ex - 3/20/17 at 11:51pm
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this is a good idea, would love for some contributions

We've got the finalmouse slam one, rattletoy g403, fnatic mice lift off distance issues
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Logitech G102, G203 and G Pro have widespread QC issues with the RMB being too light. Reports all over the internet when you search for it, including this forum. I myself went through 4 G Pro's during 6 months of RMA'ing and all had RMB actuating from the weight of the finger.

And also buttons feeling and sounding very different, minor thing in comparison, but backs up the loose QC standards going on at Logitech right now.
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This list is going to be a joke because people are going to suggest good mice like the g pro and g303 go on it. I've had 2 g303s with no lense rattle or any issues and one g pro with no issues and never had any with issues so I would definitely dispute that though.

If you want truly horrendous mice the corsair m65 vengeance (non-rgb), genius m6-600, and probably m6-400 and m8-610 have a giant flaw where the buttons are not sampled at or faster than the polling rate. This gives long and inconsistent click latency. IIRC the m65 samples the buttons every 12ms and has 24 ms of debounce time so the latency is anywhere from 24 to 36ms. For the genius sampling is 20.5 ms and debounce delay is 20.5ms so anywhere from 20.5 to 41ms of latency on a button press. This issue doesn't exist on the RGB m65 though with either the 9800 laser sensor or the 3360.
Edited by chr1spe - 3/20/17 at 9:40am
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This list is going to be a joke

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This list is going to be a joke because people are going to suggest good mice like the g pro and g303 go on it. I've had 2 g303s with no lense rattle or any issues and one g pro with no issues and never had any with issues so I would definitely dispute that though.

If you want truly horrendous mice the corsair m65 vengeance (non-rgb), genius m6-600, and probably m6-400 and m8-610 have a giant flaw where the buttons are not sampled at or below the polling rate. This gives long and inconsistent click latency. IIRC the m65 samples the buttons every 12ms and has 24 ms of debounce time so the latency is anywhere from 24 to 36ms. For the genius sampling is 20.5 ms and debounce delay is 20.5ms so anywhere from 20.5 to 41ms of latency on a button press. This issue doesn't exist on the RGB m65 though with either the 9800 laser sensor or the 3360.
Doesn't matter if you have a good one, the chances of getting a faulty RMB are extremely high still, and deserves a warning note before people waste their time with the button lottery (especially with Logitech's customer service, one RMA can take over a month). Every single technology forum out there has users reporting of too light RMB.
Edited by Leopardi - 3/20/17 at 7:13am
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Doesn't matter if you have a good one, the chances of getting a faulty RMB are extremely high still, and deserves a warning note before people waste their time with the button lottery (especially with Logitech's customer service, one RMA can take over a month). Every single technology forum out there has users reporting of too light RMB.

What percentage is it? You sound like you know.
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What percentage is it? You sound like you know.

I'm pretty sure the % is very very small it's just you don't hear about the non faulty ones because there isn't a reason to talk about them
post #9 of 60
Every mice and brand can have issues, but I think if we take this list serious, we should focus on the ones that are bad and consistent enough in their problems that it can affect every day usage. For instance the Phillips Twin-Eye Z-Axis issues, while OK to some, can make the mice completely useless for others.

Another example (and also new entry), as mentioned here before: finalmouse slam one

That's a problem that can affect a user a lot in some cases and is a flaw in its design, pure and simple.
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Cancer from Firmware:
Corsair M65 Pro RGB
more like cancer from everything
it's the worst mouse i've ever used, and it's not even close
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