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post #21 of 46
all 336X mice because they have a z-axis bug :^)

g102 and g203 too :^)
post #22 of 46
Been using and loving my M65 since I bought it in 2013. thumbsupsmiley.png
post #23 of 46
All the MLT04 mice.
post #24 of 46
I succumbed to temptation of a $7 mouse during a sale for the Azio Exo1. The LoD is very high. The first dpi setting is about half, and the rest of the higher settings are inconsistent. It has a hidden feature of removable weights if you decide to disassemble. Removing the weight makes it more balanced, otherwise it is back-heavy. The braided cable is thin but still stiff. *mousefeet have protective sticker on them, remember to remove.
Rough dpi averages from my testing:
setting: 1-green 600, 2-blue 1500, 3-pink 2200, 4-red 2500.
I used an online dpi analyzer and a ruler.
Regrets...
post #25 of 46
My mind is blown that anyone thinks the m65 Vengeance is a good mouse. I wonder if maybe the sampling rate problem is only with certain firmwares as I could only check the most recent one. The earlier firmwares had some smoothing issues or something though which made the tracking feel much worse. Out of curiosity could someone do something like I did here http://www.overclock.net/t/1572872/firmware-added-button-delay-testing-attempts-tapping-mouse-buttons-lightly/250#post_24992806 with their m65 and check that they get the same groupings? My M65 has noticeably terrible latency when clicking. On top of that I had other problems with the mouse. After a while the heavy metal scroll wheel started slamming back and forth. The side panels came loose and jiggled around. It was too heavy. The sensor isn't very good. The only positive about that mouse is the shape for me.

Edit: Woops I linked a slightly wrong post, but there is a page or 2 there were I test and talk about the problem with some people.
Edited by chr1spe - 3/20/17 at 6:45pm
post #26 of 46
Like I said, my M65 has been the best mouse I've ever used, of course the only other one I've had that wasn't just a cheap Logitec is my MS Sidewinder X8 (which I also like but i prefer the metal feel of the M65). I dunno, i don't spend my time doing click-tests measuring latency, I just play games and browse websites. In everything I've ever done with it the M65 has worked great and has certainly never done anything that I noticed was bad or wrong. I'm not some uber gamer or anything, just casual, so maybe I just don't know any better?
post #27 of 46
anything with a thermaltake logo on it
post #28 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Like I said, my M65 has been the best mouse I've ever used, of course the only other one I've had that wasn't just a cheap Logitec is my MS Sidewinder X8 (which I also like but i prefer the metal feel of the M65). I dunno, i don't spend my time doing click-tests measuring latency, I just play games and browse websites. In everything I've ever done with it the M65 has worked great and has certainly never done anything that I noticed was bad or wrong. I'm not some uber gamer or anything, just casual, so maybe I just don't know any better?

The latency is definitely enough that it is noticeable compared to better mice without testing anything. Also that program takes about 1 minute to download, do some clicks, and get an answer. I was just curious what was so awful about the m65's clicks and got my answer. I haven't used all that many mice tbh, but the m65 is probably the worst I've used. Other mice I"ve used for long period in the past 5 years are the logitech g100s, g303, and g pro. My g100s broke and I went to best buy and picked up the m65 and ended up using it for quite a while because I actually really liked the shape, but I knew it had issues. I then tried to look in to what exactly the problems with it were and whether the m45 would fix most of my problems with it and that is how I ended up here. I've tried quite a few other mice very briefly and a few for a bit longer, but not very long. Those are the only ones that I have used for more than a week or two straight in the past year though.
post #29 of 46
Quote:
Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I dunno, i don't spend my time doing click-tests measuring latency, I just play games and browse websites... I'm not some uber gamer or anything, just casual, so maybe I just don't know any better?

At least you're getting the idea. Can't tell objectively if the product is bad or good without metrology, can you? You don't need a high end peripherials for casual gaming and internet browsing - one could call a whatever noname piece a good one in this case.
post #30 of 46
Yeah, I've been using this M65 since 2013 and haven't felt any need to get anything else. It feels great in my hand and is very high quality to my eye (still looks brand new really). But as I said, I haven't tried out a bunch of mice. Peripherals aren't really my thing anyway (I've never jumped on the mechanical KB bandwagon either)...
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