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Congrats on your new best OC Weyburn. I just want to point out what might be stable for a single workload type like P95, OCCT, Aida or whatever the app du jour ..... might not be stable under a realistic, everyday and multiple application workload. This is what I have found at least in my case. I have passed single app stability tests for over 24 hours but failed under my varying distributed computing workload with several apps running at the same time and vying for the limited resources of my Ryzen system. It all of course depends on what you want to do with your system and your requirements are not the same as mine obviously. I have always needed to back down a couple of notches from my tested maximum performance to find the stable setpoint for my workload. YMMV.

yeah i know, i try to pass different software tests before claiming I have a stable overclock. I try to make sure I get a 100% stable system because I kinda wanna be a nerd about this stuff, but luckily, I only really use this for gaming, and don't have to worry about my computer crashing for any specific workload program, so even if I'm incorrect, gaming is such a light workload it can remain stable even if it's not 100% stable.

I'm always happy to get feedback and learn what other people who need an extremely stable system use to authenticate their overclocks to get a more realistic 24/7 stable overclock.
    
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Came across this video today. Maybe it’s been posted before?

https://youtu.be/H3zg-LfxkN4

He goes pretty hard with 1.45 v on the core, 1.4 on the ram, 1.2 Soc and LLC 5.

How sustainable would that be for a 24/7 rig? People seem a lot more cautious in this thread.
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use perfect uninstaller or iobit uninstaller (install in advance mode to disable third parties software)

i'll try that out, i figured out what programs to stop so i could physically delete all the files off my hard drive, but for some reason when i typed uninstall, it's still in that uninstall area lol.
    
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Came across this video today. Maybe it’s been posted before?

https://youtu.be/H3zg-LfxkN4

He goes pretty hard with 1.45 v on the core, 1.4 on the ram, 1.2 Soc and LLC 5.

How sustainable would that be for a 24/7 rig? People seem a lot more cautious in this thread.

i didn't really watch that vid, just skipped through for a few seconds, but I'll give you my thoughts.

We're cautious because for 24/7 voltage you want to be below 1.35v, and the max recommended voltage is 1.425v. you can obviously go higher than 1.425v (probably get up to 1.5v without worrying - don't quote me on the 1.5v), but you'll easily start losing life span on your chip at that point. The 1.425v max considers you'll lose a few years off the life span, and going higher makes it worse.

Secondly, you also gotta worry about temps, the more voltage you flow through it, the hotter your chip will get. The recommended max temp is 75c, and AMD recommends that if you go above 1.35v you stay under 75c. He's running an aio cooler on an open test bench, most people will run inside a case which will raise the temps a bit. Obviously you can run it above 75c, and it'll last, but it'll die faster than it should.

Thirdly, be warey about youtubers professing how easy it is for them to get certain overclocks. Most of the time they don't ensure it's completely stable. Also, they're only running their clocks just to test it, and that's it. They're gonna play with the chip maybe for 1-2 days, and put it back onto their shelves. They don't care about longevity of any single parts, they just wanna show how they can get certain things to perform at clocks/timings that most people cannot achieve or probably wouldn't be advised to achieve.

Lastly, most of the time it's not worth it to attempt to squeeze that last little overclock out of your system, voltages on the high end tend to grow exponentially, and it's better and safer to keep your clock just a little bit lower but have a system that'll last and be more stable.
    
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Interesting, maybe DRAM @1.4V is the key. It's ok running them in 1.4V, no risk damaging them?

Yeah, I used to have SoC 1.1, procODT 53.3, DRAM 1.375 for about a week, yesterday I enabled auto on SoC setting. Reason for trying procODT is I was being recommended the setting for coldboot issues at another forum.

Maybe I should keep SoC at 1.1, put auto on procODT and enable 1.4V on DRAM instead, this is like you are running?

It's really weird, with doublebeep during coldboot at approximately every third day or so with all memory tests completing perfectly. I hate this kind of sporadic issues, changing a setting and then wait 3 days for the results are hmmm extremely frustrating.

Good thing is that even if it doublebeeps it keeps memory setting at 3066, not resetting.

I was hoping we had a universal problem for the sporadic coldboot issues, but obviosly not. ;-)

Same here with the hate on odd issues, i keep trying for 3200, setting stick, boot, bench, not quite stable, then fails to post and nothing has changed, change nothing, save and exit, and fine again until the next time, but 3066 seems ok.

SOC is abit lower, 1.05

Ive seen higher, have looked at some of the Skylake threads, like HWBot "Hynix MFR is the classic of X99 and actually the WORST performer on AIR . It has many problems on AIR, meaning hard to get high frequency and tight CAS . Worst voltage tolerant IC , creates many problems like you can pass DDR4-3200 12-15-15 at 1.58v, 1.54v gives can’t train 55 and 1.62v gives you 41 because the voltage is too high . The best sticks to look for are the ones that support higher voltages at higher speeds , good sticks can bench DDR4-3200 12-15-15 under 1.6V and with good voltage tolerance they might get you to DDR4-3333 12 +" and Overclocking.guide so i thought 1.4 - 1.5 is prob fine, how relevant these are i'm not sure.
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i'll try that out, i figured out what programs to stop so i could physically delete all the files off my hard drive, but for some reason when i typed uninstall, it's still in that uninstall area lol.
I haven't installed AI Suite since my first ASUS mobo. I'm always reminded of the Jessie Ventura character quote from Predator .....“Son of a b***h is dug in like an Alabama tick.”

I had a heckuva time trying to dig my last AI Suite installation out of my Windows system. I've read in posts here that you need to hand edit the registry or try one of the mentioned uninstallers.
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I haven't installed AI Suite since my first ASUS mobo. I'm always reminded of the Jessie Ventura character quote from Predator .....“Son of a b***h is dug in like an Alabama tick.”

I had a heckuva time trying to dig my last AI Suite installation out of my Windows system. I've read in posts here that you need to hand edit the registry or try one of the mentioned uninstallers.

yeah idk why it's such a pain. it's good in theory, but the pop-up every time i log in got so annoying also. anyways I hope I cleared it for now lol.
    
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Interesting, maybe DRAM @1.4V is the key. It's ok running them in 1.4V, no risk damaging them?

somewhere in this video, one of AMD's engineers said you can run it up to 1.5v without any issues:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgpHTaQ10k

if you wanna try your hardest to overclock your ram, he walks through every settings to help you out if you wanna put in the effort.
    
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Came across this video today. Maybe it’s been posted before?

https://youtu.be/H3zg-LfxkN4

He goes pretty hard with 1.45 v on the core, 1.4 on the ram, 1.2 Soc and LLC 5.

How sustainable would that be for a 24/7 rig? People seem a lot more cautious in this thread.

Well, one thing is for sure, the X models running stock probably dynamically pushes vcore to higher levels than most of you guys here?

I've heard romours about a vcore offset for the X models though, not sure if this is true?

A majority overclocking the X models actually loose in single and dual core peformance comparing to stock, they are being pushed hard running stock.
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That error sometimes happens. Try one of the solutions provided here: https://support.eset.com/kb3361/?viewlocale=en_US
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i'll try that out, i figured out what programs to stop so i could physically delete all the files off my hard drive, but for some reason when i typed uninstall, it's still in that uninstall area lol.
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