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Originally Posted by komodikkio View Post

I'm sure that's only a warehouse's mistake, they noticed that and wish they'll be faster for the last replacement tasks.

Guys, I need your help...
Looks like i'm stable with a cpu's oc (zenstate) of 38x@1.23125v LLC3, soc 1.03125v LLC3 and the DDR4-3200 16-18-18-36-1.35V profile.
I tested my CMK16GX4M2B3200C16R ram at 3200 with the safe stilt's timings, but occt gave me error really quick, wasn't a black screen anyway.
Then i reverted to the docp timings:

But Cinebench's scores are really low: CPU 1669
How could I improve my timings on the 0902 official fw?
Every test i made poorly failed. Sadly this sticks are not the valuable cl14, so the stilt's profile dosen't stick well with them

Thank you very much

Yes, the Stilt's timing recommendations is made for Samsung b-die sticks, trying to achive the same type of timings for Hynix is likely impossible, at least for the higher memory speeds. (I assume your memory is Hynix sticks)

Maybe you could start from 2800Mhz and then when you happy with your timings slowly work yourself up in speed, one step at a time.

I have seen users being pretty successful with Hynix but I am pretty sure they can't use the kind of low timings which The Stilt is recommending, at least not for the same speeds.

I assume (guessing) many Ryzen buyers would have bought Samsung b-die sticks if they would have had more information from the start, at least the kind of users interested in optimizing performance. AMD didn't handle it well at all if you ask me. AMD wanting Ryzen to provide lots of money, if recommending buying more expensive RAM sticks for optimal compability then some of this value dissapear.

Having said this a majority of the owners are probably happy with Hynix memories for Ryzen though, they couldn't care less. ;-) 0-15% difference in system performance may not matter for them (they are happy and unaware).
Edited by makatech - 10/20/17 at 5:53am
post #5442 of 5920
Hi Maka and ty for reply
My sticks, as reported by Taiphoon, are Samsung B-dye SR.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa309/komodo1980/TaiphoonBurner.jpg

The 4.x version of this sticks are Samsung b-die, the 5.x are hynix.
Sorry, i forgotten to mention my revision smile.gif
If i'll not be able to find valid hints for a "profile" to use for starting at an higer frequency, i'll start testing from low freqs again.
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Originally Posted by makatech View Post

Yes, the Stilt's timing recommendations is made for Samsung b-die sticks, trying to achive the same type of timings for Hynix is likely impossible, at least for the higher memory speeds. (I assume your memory is Hynix sticks)
...snip...
Having said all this a majority of the owners are probably happy with Hynix memories for Ryzen though, they couldn't care less. ;-)

Edited by komodikkio - 10/20/17 at 7:21am
post #5443 of 5920
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Originally Posted by komodikkio View Post

Hi Maka and ty for reply
My sticks, as reported by Taiphoon, are Samsung B-dye SR.

The 4.x version of this sticks are Samsung b-die, the 5.x are hynix.
Sorry, i forgotten to mention my revision smile.gif
If i'll not be able to find valid hints for a "profile" to use for starting at an higer frequency, i'll start to testing from low freqs.

Your Taiphoon picture is too small, I can't see the information.

Oh, ok, great, if you actually have Samsung b-die sticks the situation should be different. :-) Starting from lower speed is a good thing anyway though. Confusing with the 16-18-18-36 rating at 3200MHz though, pretty loose timings for being Samsung b-die sticks, usually they have like 3200MHz CAS 14 or 3600MHz CAS16, hopefully somebody else here can give you advices?

I assume you already is aware of that your DRAM voltage, SoC voltage, procODT settings also may effect memory stability?

I am currently running SoC 1.0, DRAM 1.38, procODT 53.3, extreme phase control for cpu & SoC, manual timings for RAM (almost like The Stilts fast timings for 3200MHz).

These sticks (Samsung b-die):
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-3733mhz-c17-memory-kit-red-cmk16gx4m2b3733c17r
Edited by makatech - 10/20/17 at 6:37am
post #5444 of 5920
Yes, this set has strange timings.
My ProcODT_SM it's @ 60 ohm atm

Sorry, I posted the thumb links for thyphoon and rtc, and that was imported for the post.
Here's the full image links for both
http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3137353/width/350/height/700

http://www.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/3137354/width/350/height/700

th_docp3200timings.jpg
th_TaiphoonBurner.jpg
Edited by komodikkio - 10/20/17 at 7:25am
post #5445 of 5920
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Yes, this set has strange timings...

Your timings are pretty loose. You could probably tighten them with proper settings.

Anyway, you would improve both stability and performances with:
- BankGroupSwap: disabled
- BankGroupSwapAlt: enabled
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post #5446 of 5920
Salut mon ami!
Yes, off course, you're right. I tried many times but looks like i'm not able to achieve anything good. Was wishing in some path to follow from someone with the same kits

Sadly, i think, BGS & BGSA are only available on 0810 or modded bios.
I was considering to give Reobus' one a shot, but i'm scared about voiding the warranty.
To revert back from 0902 to 0810 i also need to use afudo? Or could it be done via the bios' utility?

Thanks all for your advices
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Your timings are pretty loose. You could probably tighten them with proper settings.

Anyway, you would improve both stability and performances with:
- BankGroupSwap: disabled
- BankGroupSwapAlt: enabled
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Sadly, i think, BGS & BGSA are only available on 0810 or modded bios.
That's right.

The 0810 can be installed over any newer version, with the BIOS utility.

Afudos is only required to install a modded version, but even it this looks a bit scary, this update method is safe too.

I'm running the modded version of each BIOS since the 0812, thanks to Reous, its author.
The modded bios is the only way to get the latest bios with all the AMD CBS settings unlocked.
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Yep, I know. I'm as well following his thread from the beginning smile.gif
I updated from 0810 because at beginning was said that the 0902 required less voltages.
But i dunno at end if thats true and if it's worth the AMD CBS settings loss.
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Originally Posted by Lermite View Post

That's right.
The 0810 can be installed over any newer version, with the BIOS utility.
Afudos is only required to install a modded version, but even it this looks a bit scary, this update method is safe too.
I'm running the modded version of each BIOS since the 0812, thanks to Reous, its author.
The modded bios is the only way to get the latest bios with all the AMD CBS settings unlocked.
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Originally Posted by komodikkio View Post

I updated from 0810 because at beginning was said that the 0902 required less voltages.
But i dunno at end if thats true and if it's worth the AMD CBS settings loss.

To me, it's false.
After many attempts to lower my Vcore, I ended up with the same than before.

I didn't even found any improvement in the 0902 so if you're afraid by Afudos, the 0810 should be a good deal.
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post #5450 of 5920
To me, it was when I started using CPU phase to extreme that I needed less vcore....so it might well the case on earlier versions all along.
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