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What do you mean by "If tRFC is set manually, tRFC2 and tRFC4 has to be set manually too."? They're not set properly by the motherboard, or they don't work correctly? From what I see if I set tRFC manually the TRFC2 and TRFC4 are set by ASUS, but don't follow the TRFC/1.346 and TRFC/1.625 formula...

I mean our motherboard extract the value from the XMP profile to get the value to assign to each setting "Auto".
tRFC2 is not processed from tRFC, and tRFC4 is not from tRFC2.

By example, let's assume that when tRFC, tRFC2 and tRFC4 are all on Auto, they get these values:

tRFC: 631
tRFC2: 469
tRFC4: 289

If tRFC is manually set at 350 while tRFC2 and tRFC4 are still on Auto, these value will be assigned:

tRFC: 350
tRFC2: 469
tRFC4: 289

That's why as soon as we set a value to one of these setting, all of them must get one too, unless they'll get wrong ones from the bios.
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Oh, maybe i misunderstood all...
255 is the tightened target it gives me, from that i got to calculate trfc2&4

So in bios i will set:
255 for tRFC
189,4502228826152 for tRFC2
116,5847525431478 for tRFC4

Did i get it @end?

edit: in bios i'm using now tRFC 255, tRFC2 189 and tRFC4 116 (because dot or comma aren't allowed, it switch to 60 if i use a dot)
but in windows, RTC displays tRFC 255 and tRFC (ns) 159,375
What's wrong?
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Originally Posted by komodikkio View Post

Ok i'm starting to understand.
So if in TB my tRFC ns (aka tRFC1 in the bottom left of the calculator) is 349,000 ns
In the calculator i set ...snip...
tyvm for the clarifications

Edited by komodikkio - 10/22/17 at 3:46am
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in bios i'm using now tRFC 255, tRFC2 189 and tRFC4 116 (because dot or comma aren't allowed, it switch to 60 if i use a dot)
but in windows, RTC displays tRFC 255 and tRFC (ns) 159,375
What's wrong?

Nothing is wrong, perhaps unless tRFC4. It's rounded value is 117 instead of 116.
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Yea, i rounded it that way
Merci

edit: no way. occt fails after 5m
Changing again CLDO_VDDP, i'm on 460 now. Let's see
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Nothing is wrong, perhaps unless tRFC4. It's rounded value is 117 instead of 116.

Edited by komodikkio - 10/22/17 at 4:46am
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hI GUYS!

Right now, I'm really stable with 3333Mhz the stilt FAST timing. At 1.355v I have passed 1000% memtest.

Now I want to try 3466mhz, with the stlt timings as usual... they boot fine, but I get errors at memtest, even with 1.35v or 1.4v.

I have not changed the CLDO_VDDP value, and I have no idea to manage this settings... some suggestion??
What Can I try?


My rams are F4-3200C14D-16GTZ (B-die SR)

Cattura.png

P.s. BGS in now disabled and BSGALT in enabled, I have updated the bios with the modded one yesterday.
Edited by Keyan93 - 10/22/17 at 5:45am
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Originally Posted by Keyan93 View Post

hI GUYS!

Right now, I'm really stable with 3333Mhz the stilt FAST timing. At 1.355v I have passed 1000% memtest.

Now I want to try 3466mhz, with the stlt timings as usual... they boot fine, but I get errors at memtest, even with 1.35v or 1.4v.

I have not changed the CLDO_VDDP value, and I have no idea to manage this settings... some suggestion??
What Can I try?


My rams are F4-3200C14D-16GTZ (B-die SR)

P.s. BGS in now disabled and BSGALT in enabled, I have updated the bios with the modded one yesterday.

3333 stable with Stilt's fast settings on this board is great. In fact, you may be the only one I've heard of.doing it stable right now for the Prime board, at least on this forum. A couple of others running 3333 but not using the fast settings I believe.

DRAM voltage 1.355v?

What's your SoC and procODT values?

I really need to try the modded bios myself.
Edited by makatech - 10/22/17 at 6:15am
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3333 stable with Stilt's fast settings on this board is great. In fact, you may be the only one I've heard doing it stable right now for the Prime board, at least on this forum.

DRAM voltage 1.355v?

What's your SoC and procODT values?

I really need to try the modded bios myself.


Yes, at 1.35v Ram Voltage I get some error in the initial test (like 2 weeks ago)... but after pushing it to 1.355V (only 0.005v + ) the errors disappeared!
So I left 1.355v, and I haven't test again 1.35v with the latest settings... But I feel ok with only 0.005v +

Vsoc is set to AUTO, and also AUTO for LLC of soc (probably is 1.1V LLC1 as I see from Hwinfo; it's always around 1.087v or 1.094v)
ProcODT is set to 60ohm
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Originally Posted by Lermite View Post

I mean our motherboard extract the value from the XMP profile to get the value to assign to each setting "Auto".
tRFC2 is not processed from tRFC, and tRFC4 is not from tRFC2.

By example, let's assume that when tRFC, tRFC2 and tRFC4 are all on Auto, they get these values:

tRFC: 631
tRFC2: 469
tRFC4: 289

If tRFC is manually set at 350 while tRFC2 and tRFC4 are still on Auto, these value will be assigned:

tRFC: 350
tRFC2: 469
tRFC4: 289

That's why as soon as we set a value to one of these setting, all of them must get one too, unless they'll get wrong ones from the bios.

It seems that BIOS 902 ignores tRTP, tRFC2 and tRFC4. I've shut down, closed the power supply and waited a few minutes for capacitors to drain but these three settings still don't apply. The system seems stable @2933 with safe timings from Ryzen Dram Calculator. For stability I had to put procODT to 68.8 ohm and all CAD_BUS settings to 24 ohm.

I have no idea if it's safe or not...

BTW, i'm running dual rank Hynix M-die, the worst possible kind for Ryzen.
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post #5499 of 6443
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Originally Posted by Keyan93 View Post

hI GUYS!

Right now, I'm really stable with 3333Mhz the stilt FAST timing. At 1.355v I have passed 1000% memtest.

Now I want to try 3466mhz, with the stlt timings as usual... they boot fine, but I get errors at memtest, even with 1.35v or 1.4v.

I have not changed the CLDO_VDDP value, and I have no idea to manage this settings... some suggestion??
What Can I try?


My rams are F4-3200C14D-16GTZ (B-die SR)

Cattura.png

P.s. BGS in now disabled and BSGALT in enabled, I have updated the bios with the modded one yesterday.

Nice, whats your AIDA cache, memory benches?

A few tweaks since my 13 hour failure, will leave again tonight

Fiddled with 3466 yesterday too, couldn't get 3466 near stable with low primaries, maybe a larger SoC voltage bump was needed, went up 1.0625, and then got distracted or loosen the timings more.

Seen these mentioned to help with plus 3333 speed, no ideal on their purpose, and didnt help me at 3466

CAD_BUS ClkDrv - 30 / 40
CAD_AddCmdDrv - 30 / 40
CAD_CsOdtDrv - 40 / 40
CAD_CkeDrv - 60
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Originally Posted by Keyan93 View Post

Yes, at 1.35v Ram Voltage I get some error in the initial test (like 2 weeks ago)... but after pushing it to 1.355V (only 0.005v + ) the errors disappeared!
So I left 1.355v, and I haven't test again 1.35v with the latest settings... But I feel ok with only 0.005v +

Vsoc is set to AUTO, and also AUTO for LLC of soc (probably is 1.1V LLC1 as I see from Hwinfo; it's always around 1.087v or 1.094v)
ProcODT is set to 60ohm

what rtt, cad_bus settings you use?
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