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BTW my windows version is 17025.rs_prerelease.171020-1626

Anyone else running that one?

After reinstalling BIOS 1001 and setting everything manually from scratch the problem still persists.

Must be a windows bug.
Edited by SaccoSVD - 11/10/17 at 6:28pm
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i have some problems with 1709 version, now i use 1703 and work fine.
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Originally Posted by ZeNch View Post

i have some problems with 1709 version, now i use 1703 and work fine.

Is that related to me? What's 1709? smile.gif
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Originally Posted by SaccoSVD View Post

Is that related to me? What's 1709? smile.gif

windows 10 version 1709

this is bad update (some users have problems) (idk if clean install have issues)
post #5795 of 6443
Ah pfff sorry, of course 1709

What was the specific problem?
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Ah pfff sorry, of course 1709

What was the specific problem?

this happened:
i update
reboot
windows apply changes
have some errors
reboot (automatic)
dont boot
i need chkdsk /f /r
here my system is unstable
i use sfc /scannow
now my sistem is "fine"... but... No.
i need to reinstall ethernet driver, my system is stable again.

in the link some comments talk of ethernet/wireless issues.
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Ok, not my issue at all. Sad to hear it happened in your end.

Mine is way more worrisome, if MS doesn't even notice it we're CB15 "60pts lower than normal" screwed.
Edited by SaccoSVD - 11/10/17 at 8:21pm
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Might be a good idea, but AGESA 1.0.0.7 is a complete overhaul and adds APU functionality to the motherboards for the upcoming Raven Ridge APUs. It sounds like you are close if you could run benchmarks. A bit more SoC voltage or RAM voltage might get you there, but if you weren't noticing a difference, then it's not worth the trouble, as I've determined with my rig.

Kinda odd that your kit isn't on the QVL, since the Strix B350-f is the same PCB as our X370-Pro basically, with some SATA ports missing and a few other changes besides the B350 chipset and VRM section is different as well.

So you tried ProcODT 60 ohms and 1.36 volts on the RAM? I mentioned quite a few settings. Sometimes it could be sub-timings that need changing. Also, Ryzen hates odd numbers for case latency. I can't get any odd numbers to run right. The BIOS has even changed them by itself to an even number when trying to push the timings down lower. Mine is rated for CL 14, but I tried to do 13, no go, but ran 12 with a bump to 1.35 volts.

Well, hopefully the new AGESA update won't bork anything, but I'm gonna wait and see when it comes out. I'm stable on 0810 currently, so I'm sticking with it for now. I thought about flashing 1001 BIOS, but it doesn't even have any patch notes, so I don't know what it's supposed to fix. I could always try and flash back if I don't like it, as I did with the other BIOS' before, but I'm always slightly paranoid about flashing, as I think I'll be the one to have something stupid like a power failure and brick my mobo!
yeah i tried proc60 1.36v, soc 1.08 and got errors in MemTest hci. Bumped to 1.38v and passed MemTest hci 200%. This was with stilts safe 3200 timings. I could bump up voltage to 1.4, soc 1.1-1.2 but not interested in doing that. If asus just supported my ram like they do with strix b350, strix x370 i wouldn't even need to push ram above rated volts to get stable 3200. Unless of course my cpu imc is preventing 3200mhz.

I'm also using 0810 since it includes extra features. And i'm not convinced 1001 bios will get me 3200mhz.
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you have to turn GearDown mode off to use odd CL numbers

I see. Didn't know that. I'll have to experiment with that tomorrow. I have to have it on for anything above 2400 usually. Probably because it's the Hynix memory and it's really picky about timings. I can push CL 12 on 2800, but not 2666, it's just very odd. Never know what numbers it's going to like. I'll mess with some odd timings and see what happens, maybe even stumble onto something that'll let me run higher than 2933.
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yeah i tried proc60 1.36v, soc 1.08 and got errors in MemTest hci. Bumped to 1.38v and passed MemTest hci 200%. This was with stilts safe 3200 timings. I could bump up voltage to 1.4, soc 1.1-1.2 but not interested in doing that. If asus just supported my ram like they do with strix b350, strix x370 i wouldn't even need to push ram above rated volts to get stable 3200. Unless of course my cpu imc is preventing 3200mhz.

I'm also using 0810 since it includes extra features. And i'm not convinced 1001 bios will get me 3200mhz.

I'm not convinced 1001 is going to do anything for me either. Yeah, if you aren't comfortable with the voltages, then it's not worth it. I'm not sure why your board doesn't like that RAM.

Other things you can try, because sometimes training the RAM on Ryzen is finicky, is to try the safe 3200 timings, reboot into BIOS then try the normal timings. Sometimes Ryzen likes to creep up to the settings you are going for before it'll POST and work properly. I've had to do 2800 timings, then go to 2933 after. Even then it'll POST straight away, then memtest and you restart, then you get 3 beeps even after it passed memtest!

It could also be the chips IMC. Just never know. It's all a giant jigsaw puzzle linked together. Weak CPU cores, bad OC's. Weak SOC, may not give you high OC's on CPU and RAM. Weak IMC, can't get rated RAM speeds to run correctly.

I think even on auto this board will try for 1.1 SOC voltage when I did a 2933 clock on the RAM, so it might take 1.1 SOC voltage to get you 100% stable. The SoC is safe up to 1.25v from what I've read, but don't quote me on that. I'd double check first before going anywhere near that close if you decided to see what it actually takes to get 100% stability.
Edited by Acidstorm - 11/10/17 at 10:14pm
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Must be windows. I did a CMOS reset and put all the settings manually. Still windows shows the minimum processor state in the power options, etc...etc...

I see down to 3.50GHZ in the task manager. Pfff!!!!
It probably always will. Windows don't care or even know processor is OCed. It also does nothing, minimum or maximum. Even Active or Passive cooling option does nothing.
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