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[Guru3d] Radeon RX 500 Series fabbed using newer 14nm LLP

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Source : http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/radeon-rx-500-will-be-fabbed-using-14nm-llp.html

"So basically you are still looking at the 'older' Polaris GPU architecture right, but they're using a new (updated) generation fabrication node process named 14LPP. The previous node was 14LPE (Low Power Early). The new one is a 14LPP (Low Power Plus) node, an enhanced version with higher performance and lower power."
 
#2 ·
So its then not a rebrand
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#3 ·
wat, i thought it was already using LPP.
 
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Originally Posted by EightDee8D View Post

wat, i thought it was already using LPP.
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Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post

And you would be right. It was already using LPP.
They both are using LPP (low power process) I read somwhere that the old stuff was using low power early while the new cards will low power plus.
 
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Why cant they put it on something like 14nm hp?
 
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And you would be right. It was already using LPP.
Yes, Polaris uses LPP. It would be big news if 5xx was utilizing 14nm LPU (Low Power Ultra), but I don't believe fabs have even begun to ramp up the process yet; looks to be in 2H of this year.
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Originally Posted by kaosstar View Post

At the right price. There have been some fire sales lately, with the 4GB version dropping to as low as $140.
This. 480 <$150 and 470<$120 are absolute steals right now, escpecially with 5xx refresh features seeming minimal ATM.
 
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Where are the $150 RX 480's?
 
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Originally Posted by Alastair View Post

Why cant they put it on something like 14nm hp?
Because they don't want anymore memes about their graphics cards being hotter than rocket engines like they had with Hawaii. So they will use a low power node (perhaps also cheaper) it is not as if AMD would invest in a decent cooler anyways. My 290 at least looks cool and I think it has gotten cooler and quieter with newer drivers but I'm not sure if performance declined. Don't really have much time to play games nowadays and the ones I do get around to playing are generally not very intensive. Noticed some stuttering in the new Resident Evil but that could've been just the game being buggy. (RE had this massive blur that gave me a headache even more than being chased)

Still for you guys I hope 14nm cards have a lot more to offer thus far it has been a huge let down from AMD and not really as many cards as I would like to see from Nvidia.
 
#20 ·
the rebrands only tells you 1 thing

the top vega is not anywhere near as fast as a fully enabled GP102.
 
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Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post

the rebrands only tells you 1 thing

the top vega is not anywhere near as fast as a fully enabled GP102.
I think it is more of reviews using the newer SKU with newer drivers (i..e better drivers) resulting in better reviews of what is essentially the same thing.

People will buy the newer version based on better reviews even if it is the same thing.
 
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Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post

the rebrands only tells you 1 thing

the top vega is not anywhere near as fast as a fully enabled GP102.
If they see improved they are going to show it by refreshing the card. Nvidia is doing it with 11Gbps G5X and 9Gbps G5. If this change was applied to current card it would create a lot of confusion and never get to see the light from reviews.

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Originally Posted by 12Cores View Post

Does this mean we can expect 1,500-1600mhz overclock's on average?
Lets get 1400-1500 first.
 
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Originally Posted by btupsx View Post

https://slickdeals.net/f/9742828-powercolor-red-dragon-radeon-rx-480-4gb-gddr5-video-card-140-after-20-rebate-free-s-h

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/5sega9/sub_140_rx_480_4gb_prices_for_480s_are_getting/

Granted these were not common occurrences, but 480's can be found on the reg for ~$160 AR. 470's have been on Jet for sub $115 AR many times over the past few months.
Pretty crazy deals. RX480 is very good 1440p card. Dam PC gaming is so cheap these days.
 
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