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Could I get confirmation that the 5.1 7700k I purchased was delidded? It was in same shopping cart when I purchased, so according to the instructions, it should have been. I have concerns for 2 reasons:

1) Nothing in the package I received mentioned anything about a delid.

2) the chip inside is running at higher temperatures than the 7700k chip(no delid) I swapped it out for.

Seems odd. Any support around?

Edit 1: yes I've already tried reapplying the thermal paste. using grizzly kryonaut btw
Edit 2: temps have dropped to similar temps as previous chip. I'd still like confirmation if possible
Edit 3: confirmed. temps have dropped well below originial chip. not sure why it took so long.
Edited by pidgey - 3/21/17 at 10:45am
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Online shops do not sell delidded CPUs. If you bought it from eBay, generally the seller should mention it.

However, you mentioned you swapped the thermal paste on the die of the CPU? If so, then it was delidded.
 
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Online shops do not sell delidded CPUs. If you bought it from eBay, generally the seller should mention it.

However, you mentioned you swapped the thermal paste on the die of the CPU? If so, then it was delidded.

Hey man this is actually a forum for siliconlottery.com that sells overclocked cpus with or without delidding. I shoulda been more specific in my post, I forget it's just a sub forum. Thanks for trying to help though : )
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Oh, so you got your CPU and removed the glue and replaced the thermal paste on the die?

Or, you have the CPU, the IHS is glued on and you don't know if it was delidded? I'm sure if someone glued it back on, if won't be as perfect as the ones from the Intel factory. Additionally, there may be some scratches, indents on the IHS that may give away a delid.
 
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Could I get confirmation that the 5.1 7700k I purchased was delidded? It was in same shopping cart when I purchased, so according to the instructions, it should have been. I have concerns for 2 reasons:

1) Nothing in the package I received mentioned anything about a delid.

2) the chip inside is running at higher temperatures than the 7700k chip(no delid) I swapped it out for.

Seems odd. Any support around?

Edit 1: yes I've already tried reapplying the thermal paste. using grizzly kryonaut btw
Edit 2: temps have dropped to similar temps as previous chip. I'd still like confirmation if possible

If you purchased delidding with the processor, then yes, it has been delidded. Your packing slip should state the processor has been delidded. Our seal on the IHS will have some variance compared to the stock Intel seal.

Kaby Lake processors have a wide variety of temperature differences between each CPU, a range of 25C or more at stock. Warmer chips are typically the ones that clock better, which is why you'll typically see warmer temperatures on the 5.1/5.2 bin. With that in mind, it's definitely possible for the delidded CPU you received to have the same or warmer temperatures than the CPU you replaced it with at the same voltage. You can probably run a fair bit under 1.408V, so lowering your voltage there can help bring temperatures down as well.
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Originally Posted by Gunderman456 View Post

Online shops do not sell delidded CPUs. If you bought it from eBay, generally the seller should mention it.

However, you mentioned you swapped the thermal paste on the die of the CPU? If so, then it was delidded.

We've offered the option to purchase CPUs delidded for a couple years now. We reseal the IHS back on after delidding.
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Good avenue for those that don't want to take the risk themselves!
 
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Your slip should have a line that looks like this (just with your CPU model obviously):

Delidded
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Originally Posted by Gunderman456 View Post

Oh, so you got your CPU and removed the glue and replaced the thermal paste on the die?

Or, you have the CPU, the IHS is glued on and you don't know if it was delidded? I'm sure if someone glued it back on, if won't be as perfect as the ones from the Intel factory. Additionally, there may be some scratches, indents on the IHS that may give away a delid.

Yeah I did notice the TIM application looked a bit different, I just wasn't sure how much variance there was between intels chips. good call though.
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Originally Posted by Digitalwolf View Post

Your slip should have a line that looks like this (just with your CPU model obviously):

Delidded

Thanks, just found it, I was looking for more of a receipt type thing, but this confirms it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silicon Lottery View Post

If you purchased delidding with the processor, then yes, it has been delidded. Your packing slip should state the processor has been delidded. Our seal on the IHS will have some variance compared to the stock Intel seal.

Kaby Lake processors have a wide variety of temperature differences between each CPU, a range of 25C or more at stock. Warmer chips are typically the ones that clock better, which is why you'll typically see warmer temperatures on the 5.1/5.2 bin. With that in mind, it's definitely possible for the delidded CPU you received to have the same or warmer temperatures than the CPU you replaced it with at the same voltage. You can probably run a fair bit under 1.408V, so lowering your voltage there can help bring temperatures down as well.

Thanks, it was definitely delidded. The reason I was concerned at first is because right out of the box it hit extremely high temperatures, but after about an hour they settled down and were quiite a bit lower than my original 7700k. Perhaps because I'm in arizona and it was in the mailbox... anyway thanks for the help
Edited by pidgey - 3/21/17 at 10:47am
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