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Tested new bios on Asrock Fatality pro gaming in Aida. A bit lower latency than before smile.gif
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Originally Posted by seiferoth10 View Post

Whoa, how did you manage to change the command rate? I do have the Taichi and not the Fatality Gaming, but I cant imagine they'd only allow the latter to have a newly modifiable command rate?
I did a quick look in the OC section to see IF they had that option yet but didn't see one. When I FINALLY got a stable mem OC and was able to post/boot to windows CPUz & hwinfo 5.50 were both showing that the memory was running at 2T, so I guess that they're doing it automagically now, or more likely parsing more of the JEDEC/XMP info maybe.

It HAD been running PERFECTLY HAPPILY at 2667 1T though, so I'm thinking that I'd like a manual override especially IF I can ever get to 2933 or 3200 and it doesn't give much(any) extra perf, I MIGHT be happier at 2667 and 1T which BTW did pass and hour or so of intel burn.

I see that 1.93D beta BIOS is now missing, but the release 2.0 is still up. I think that I saw a post on reddit where someone claimed that 2.0 bricked their fatal1ty but it sounded like they were doing a great deal of monkeying around while I'm REALLY waiting for BIOS/AGESA to stabilize. i.e. I'm reluctant to mess w/ANY voltage settings ATM and am pretty much sticking w/modding timings but man this reboot cycle crap has just got to go as it ALWAYS just ends back up @ 2133(or at least I've NEVER see ANYTHING other than 2133 after cycling) or phailwhales -> manual reset/reboot to recover. I'd like to see dump to BIOS or straight reset to defaults on failure. The boot cycling wastes too much time for nothing at all.

Speaking of AGESA I HAD been looking at the INCORRECT section in hwinfo. There's another AGESA specific labelled field buried somewhere else in the tree than CPU, but I've forgotten where and will have to search it out again. All I remember is that it seemed an incredibly illogical place for it... (It's 1.3.0 [something] now)
post #63 of 119
is it worth getting 3600 MHz+ ram 16 gb or 32 and anyone running stable using that speed?

and how are the VRM temps ?

my MOBO few days away from arriving still need to pick ram and GPU thinking going 1080 ZOTAC AMP Extreme
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is it worth getting 3600 MHz+ ram 16 gb or 32 and anyone running stable using that speed?

and how are the VRM temps ?

my MOBO few days away from arriving still need to pick ram and GPU thinking going 1080 ZOTAC AMP Extreme
max I've seen on hwinfo 5.50 is 48C IRF IF35204 during intel burn test that I ran for a few hours stock. RAM @ 2400 (2.00) & 2667 (1.93D now removed although IIRC I also had RAM @ 2667 on 1.50).

See a few pages back for my models of RAM they're both CL16, one kit is TridentZ 2x8GB Samsung (2T) 3200 and 2x16GB RipjawV HYNIX 2T also 3200.

People have best luck with 8GB sticks (2x) that are Samsung 'B' die, it seems, so your best bet is look around for kits that people are using and reliably getting higher RAM 'clocks'. Mine aren't those(for now). I write 'for now' as this MAY(or may NOT) change when AMD releases the 1.4 AGESA which SUPPOSEDLY will IMPROVE RAM 'compatibility', which I'm hoping to mean performance as well since 2.00 and AGESA 1.3.0.whatever was a step back for me and my kits.

[EDIT]
Under the nuvton sensor heading the VRM entry there I've never seen above 38C...
[/EDIT]
Edited by cutterjohn - 4/11/17 at 6:17am
post #65 of 119
Over clocking my rig today for the first time, I'm not sure what's up with my core voltage I set it to 1.37. It's showing 2.688 in cpuz. I reset the cmos and it still is sitting above 2. In ryzen master its showing my correct voltage. At first I set my vcore to 1.37 and noticed that reading, I went back to my bios and then changed the cpu voltage to 1.37(the setting near where you set the overclock 3900) and I changed back my vcore to auto.




R7 1700@3900
asrock fatal1ty x370 professional gaming
samsung 960 evo 500gb
EVGA 750 G2
Corsair 16gb X 2 3000 LED CAS15
GTX980 TI Asus Strix
Edited by Dan Man - 4/14/17 at 5:33pm
post #66 of 119
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What version CPU-Z? CPU-Z hasn't displayed a correct value for me yet. Try looking at HWINFO64 version 5.5-3130. The highlighted value is accurate for me on 2.0 BIO.



 
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post #67 of 119
Am back on the 1.93D (beta) BIOS here.

CPU: 1700X at Auto speed/voltage
Memory: G. Skill F4-3200C16-16GVK
Details: 16G DIMMS x2 Ranking: 2 Hynix H5AN8G8NMFR-TFC XMP rated 3200 16-18-18-38-56 / 1.35v
Currently running at 16-18-18-38-63-1T 2667 1.35v

Speed: Command Rate
2400 2T
2667 1T (seems automatic - nice!)

BIOS | Max Mem Speed | Remarks

1.55 (Beta) | 2400 | Reboots 4-5x then reverts to 2133 when attempting faster (using XMP settings)
1.93D (Beta)| 2667 | Ignores ASRock "Restart to UEFI" application; haven't tried for faster (yet)
2.00 | 2400 | Reboots continuously until clear CMOS when attempting faster (using XMP settings)

Once at 2.00, it would not let me downlevel directly to 1.93D. Had to go to 1.55, then back up.
( BIOS flashes performed from UEFI, with BIOS file on FAT-16 USB stick, except for the very first one, which had to be done in DOS)

Waiting for 2.x (Beta or otherwise) - AMD is supposedly issuing a new release in May. Hopefully ASRock issues something better than 2.00, first.
From what I can see, the new Ryzen Master (1.01) software requires the 2.00 BIOS/UEFI in order to run with HPET turned off.

(No issues with HWiNFO64 v5.51 voltages -- 12.3v (my PSU runs a little high at 12v) )

Have been using the Intel ethernet port since day 1. Waiting for 5G switches to show up (and get cheaper) before messing with that port ( Intel Teaming was tried -- adding the Aquantia to the Intel team (using LACP or SLA) resulted in Jumbo frames being disabled, making it slower, so teaming and the Aquantia are disabled for now.)

Have been looking for a good BIOS thread for this board. Thanks.

BTW - haven't seen much in the way of M.2 speeds, here or elsewhere, so here are mine:

Samsung 950Pro_512G (x2)
Fast PCIE 3x4 M.2 slot: 1480MBps Write 2350MBps Read with MS NVMe driver under Windows 8.1 (interestingly, the Samsung NVMe driver was slightly slower)
Slower PCIE 2x4 M.2 slot: 1280 MBps write / 1480 MBps read
3000 MBps write / 4000 MBps read - windows soft raid 0 (stripe) of both M.2 slots

Ended up putting a heatsink on the SSD in the PCIE 3x4 M.2 slot - extended writing would incur thermal throttling without the heatsink. Have a fan on the PCIE 2x4 M.2 slot's SSD to keep it cool (which works).

Has anyone identified / benchmarked the CPU SATA vs Chipset SATA or CPU USB vs Chipset USB? (The manual shows which SATA are the slow ASMedia A1 & A2, but that's it.)


Finally, regarding the lack of PCIe lanes:

Did some benchmarking with a RX480 (8G Factory OC to 1330) to compare PCIe 3.0 x8 and x16: only about a 5% drop in frame rate (if that) while running in x8 mode.
Currently running with the twin M.2 SSDs in soft raid 0, video at x8, and an x8 raid card in the middle PCIe slot.
post #68 of 119

You're right it shows correctly in hwinfo64. Am I over clocking correctly by boosting the CPU Voltage Under CPU Frequency and Voltage instead of using the CPU Vcore Voltage(which i have set to auto)? I set it back to 3800 until i figure which is the right way to overclock it.


PS Also when I did over clock through CPU VCore ryzen master showed the default volts instead of the overclock voltage, that's why I swapped to CPU Voltage that's near the CPU Frequency setting because it showed correct voltage in ryzen master.
Edited by Dan Man - 4/15/17 at 4:28pm
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Honestly? Dunno lol I use CPU VCore down at the bottom. The overclock settings at the top are kinda goofy. The frequency really needs to be changed to multiplier since that's what it really is. Buildzoid put up a video on YouTube going over the Taichi, which is the same board, and the quirks of the BIOS we share.

Edit: I don't use Ryzen Master so I can't really say anything as to whether one setting is sticking better than the other.
 
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Thanks for the youtube video, he clocks both to 1.35. I'll give it a shot and see what happens.
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