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Auto updates are always a bad idea. Not saying Microsoft was right either way, but the people suing here are obviously uneducated in the matter.

Many people who left auto updates on were people who just wanted their OS to keep itself updated on things like bug and exploit fixes. That's not really such a bad thought in theory, and for the people who don't mind having their system update when it chooses to it probably worked fine for them up until that point. If there's any educating that needed to be done, it's that Microsoft is willing to push their unwanted garbage on people and make it as deceptive as legally possible for them to refuse. So I suppose these people can now consider themselves educated on that matter.
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Today, Windows 10 popped up the warning about an automatic restart at 2:15 for updates. I chose to restart now so I didn't have to worry about it at 2:15. It did restart and applied the updates (or so I thought), but then at 2:15 it restarted again but with no warning. Thanks Microsoft...

Currently I keep 10 in a VM for specific tasks for work. Windows 7 is my main OS. The short time I had 10 as my main OS, my PC was unreliable, the most annoying issue being the 100% disk usage at random. If this OS was truly free, than the bugs wouldn't bother me much, but for a purchased product this is unacceptable. For anyone who cares about the issues, they're in the spoiler.
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Bugs:
- Forced Automatic install without consent.
- Disk usage at 100% randomly.
- Applications delayed opening/closing.
- Updates removing compatible software (For example, RSAT).
- Updates reinstalling bloatware.
- Updates enabling features I disabled.
- Updates deleting files.
- Updates automatically restarting PC without user consent.
- Start menu breaking.
- Edge failing to load many websties, including Microsoft's own website.
- Hyper-V manager taking minutes to load other Hyper-V connected hosts (Instant on 7 / 8 / 8.1 / 2008 R2 / 2012R2).
- Xbox DVR causing low FPS in games, even when not used.

Complaints:
- Cannot change window colors without modifying the registry or hand writing a custom theme.
- Cannot edit an existing Wi-Fi connection.
- Cannot remove / disable some applications.
- Cannot fully disable additional telemetry (more load on the PC, more data usage).
- Cannot leave feedback without fully enabling telemetry.
- Built in calculator extremely delayed starting.
- No more "disable desktop composition" for app compatibility.
- No basic windows theme.
- Options are scattered between control panel and "Settings" panel, instead of being in 1 place.
- Default view of Task Manager is useless (one click and you're done, still pointless to even have it).
- Just like cable tv, ads.
- Higher RAM usage (all that telemetry and other useless background apps that can't be disabled without some sort of hack).
- Picture viewer is slow and less functional. (Requires workaround to use the old one).
- Windows store flooded with malware.
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the most annoying issue being the 100% disk usage at random. If this OS was truly free, than the bugs wouldn't bother me much, but for a purchased product this is unacceptable. For anyone who cares about the issues, they're in the spoiler.

That is indeed one of the biggest beef I have with Win10, it will just randomly decides to used up your full SSD, unless you let it do the damn upgrade, it will held your free space HOSTAGE.

The worst of it is that sometimes these updates fails, due lack of free space.... see the pattern? rolleyes.gif

We're talking about a 256 GB SSD, quite generous, and more than 150 GB free space when Win10 doesn't take the free space Hostage at random.
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That is indeed one of the biggest beef I have with Win10, it will just randomly decides to used up your full SSD, unless you let it do the damn upgrade, it will held your free space HOSTAGE.

The worst of it is that sometimes these updates fails, due lack of free space.... see the pattern? rolleyes.gif

We're talking about a 256 GB SSD, quite generous, and more than 150 GB free space when Win10 doesn't take the free space Hostage at random.

I meant usage as in disk activity, but it does eat through a ton of disk space after updates by leaving the windows.old folder.
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If this OS was truly free, than the bugs wouldn't bother me much, but for a purchased product this is unacceptable.

But... but the guy at the store said it took them 6 months to iron out the bugs but it's all ok now (really, he did)!
    
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That is indeed one of the biggest beef I have with Win10, it will just randomly decides to used up your full SSD, unless you let it do the damn upgrade, it will held your free space HOSTAGE.

The worst of it is that sometimes these updates fails, due lack of free space.... see the pattern? rolleyes.gif

We're talking about a 256 GB SSD, quite generous, and more than 150 GB free space when Win10 doesn't take the free space Hostage at random.

Have not had this problem at all. I have a 240GB SSD with a 1-2 year old W10 installation on it (used it on the system since beta), and it has ~100gb free with some Steam games installed on it.
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Have not had this problem at all. I have a 240GB SSD with a 1-2 year old W10 installation on it (used it on the system since beta), and it has ~100gb free with some Steam games installed on it.

The thing seems to be due the patches, I don't let it update, so it just keeps queuing up eating up at my space

Once I let it do the upgrade all the hostage space frees up again.

it's extremely annoying to be forced to updates / upgrades even when you don't want the new files.
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The thing seems to be due the patches, I don't let it update, so it just keeps queuing up eating up at my space

Once I let it do the upgrade all the hostage space frees up again.

it's extremely annoying to be forced to updates / upgrades even when you don't want the new files.

That is just one of the things you have to accept with 10. The automatic updates being forced is just one of the problem with the OS that will never be fixed.

I have had my own issues with that honestly. Mainly the system downloading updates on connections that are of limited capacity. You cant set specific connection types to metered. Had to use phone internet to do classwork at one point and W10 downloaded 20gb of patches over my cellphone.
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That is just one of the things you have to accept with 10. The automatic updates being forced is just one of the problem with the OS that will never be fixed.

I have had my own issues with that honestly. Mainly the system downloading updates on connections that are of limited capacity. You cant set specific connection types to metered. Had to use phone internet to do classwork at one point and W10 downloaded 20gb of patches over my cellphone.

You can set them to be metered. Its not overly easy..
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Can I sue for emotional hardship? I've been using W10 for a week and I'm ready to throw my laptop out a window.
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