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I'm doing an upgrade to my current system, which includes changing out the case and most of the water cooling parts. Here's a photo of my current system: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


I recently updated the mobo, cpu, and ram and just decided I didn't like the red and soft tubing anymore. I also wanted something with tempered glass. Looking around, most of the tempered glass builds I see use an odd mounting system with screws in the front. I'm not that fond of that look, however the View 31 doesn't do that. It uses a frames that are attached to each side of the panel so it mounts just like a standard side panel. It also has some black trim around the edges to clean up the look.

Parts I currently have
CPU: Intel I7-7700K
MB: Asus Strix Z270G
Ram: GSkill Trident Z RGB 3200
SSD: Samsung 850 Evo 1TB M.2
PSU: Corsair AX1200
GPU: EVGA GTX 1070 FTW
Fans: 3x Corsair SP 120 PWM (for now) and 3x Thermaltake Riing 14 fans (included in case)

CPU Block: EK Evo Supremacy (Acetal)
GPU Block: EK (Acetal)
Pump: Swiftech MCP655-PWM

Parts I'm purchasing
Case: Thermaltake View 31 RGB - Already have
Reservoir: Monsoon MRS 100mm length (black chrome accessories) - recieved
Fittings: Monsoon Economy Hardline (black chrome) recieved
Tubing: Black PETG recieved
Radiators: Hardware Labs Nemesis L-Series 360 and GTR 280 - recieved
Fans: Thermaltake Riing 14 RGB and Thermaltake Riing 12 RGB - recieved
Extras: Adafruit 32x32 rgb matrix - recieved
I'm waiting on the 360 GTS radiator to be in stock before I make a big purchase of parts. Went with the L-Series 360 since it appears to be the same innards but for oem purposes. The finish is also smooth like the GTR280 so it'll match better.

The color scheme I have planned is going to be black and black chrome. But, I want to have some color accents that I can change in the form of lighting. I don't want these lights to be bright illumination lights, but rather diffused to look more like "glowy paint." I'll be using my rgbw strips to illuminate the case with white light. Although, I might swap them out for denser strands and stick them into a diffuser, depending on how they look. I prefer smooth lighting to the bright dots of leds. I prefer rgb so that I can change the colors to whatever I want. I want to have the accent colors to be initially orange, but would also like to be able to change them to another color without having to replace the lights, and to be able to turn them all off when I go to sleep.

For fans, I'm going to use what's in the case and what I currently have for now. Eventually, I'll change them. I just haven't seen any fans that I want. I would like some that have lighting on them, but the lighting is usually too much or the controls are terrible. I'll probably keep the two Riing fans in the front. It's my understanding that they can be controlled via Arduino. There's an extra plug on the control box that can be utilized with an Arduino to control it. My rgbw lights are all controlled with an Arduino and a Windows app I wrote (like a ghetto NZXT Hue+). I can easily write something into my software to control those fans this way. For the rest of the fans, I would like to change them to all be the same. I'm waiting for the Deepcool MF120GT fans to arrive in April. I like their look, but want to see how well they work. Went with all Thermaltake Riing RGB fans.

For the tubing, I was thinking of either black or wrapping them in carbon fiber. I haven't decided yet.

Updates:
1) Case
2) Fan Led Control
3) Fan Led Control (Update 1)
4) Fan Led Control (Update 2)/Reservoir Lighting
5) RGB Matrix
6) Hardware In
Edited by Inelastic - 5/20/17 at 1:37pm
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I haven't really seen any build logs with this case, so the only thing I really had to go on was a video that Thermaltake made. The case looked nice, but it didn't give any indicators on how well it was built. I got the case in today, and the build quality is actually very nice. I haven't taken off the wrap yet because I want to keep it protected at this time. As you can see, the side panels fit on like any other case. The frames affixed to the glass on each side are sturdy plastic, not metal. It's not loose on the glass or anything, which is nice. The metal the case is made from thick enough to keep it sturdy.

The front is black acrylic. It's mostly opaque, but does transmit some light. Lighting on fans will shine through. I like the look of the rings on the riing fans, so I'm going to keep the riing fans up front here. This case is also extra wide.



The other side panel is also tempered glass. The side panels can be flipped to be put on the other sides. There's around 3.5cm of space behind the mobo tray, lots of space which is good since I'm going to want to do a nice job back here since it can be seen.

The reason it's extra wide is that they include a bracket so you can vertically mount the gpu. There's extra ports in the front for the gpu card. This means there should still be room behind the gpu to mount other cards.

This case doesn't come with a psu shroud. However, the case was designed off of their Supressor F31 case, which does have one. I've purchased the psu shroud for that case off of their website and it fits perfectly.

Here's a photo of how the fans are mounted. That extra bracket at the top is if you put in 120mm fans and want to mount 3. You can also move it down to center two 140mm fans so they are symmetric when viewed through the front. I haven't decided yet if I want them centered or not. I was thinking of a piece of acrylic that I can screw put in the top to which I would mount some light design on it. Perhaps I could even do a matrix of leds to which I display the water temperature on.


I decided to take off the plastic to check for scratches, which there are none.

Here it is compared to my Corsair 350d.

Edited by Inelastic - 3/28/17 at 12:27am
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Fan Control

While I wait for parts to ship, I decided to work on the controls for the Thermaltake fans. Since the lighting is controlled by a controller that won't be in the best of places to use, I decided to control them via my Arduino Uno. The leds in the fans look like your standard 5mm rgb leds. There are even 4 wires leading to each led (white, red, green, and blue). I assume I could cut these wires and feed them into my Arduino. However, I decided not to do this since that would require extra software coding I don't want to do now (I'm also guessing I can do this, not 100% sure). Instead, I wired up the buttons to be controlled by my Arduino. There's an extra interface on the control box that is used to interface the control box with other control boxes and has a pinout that looks like (from the center of the box out):

1 - speed
2 - play/pause
3 - mode
4 - ground
5 - ???



Thermaltake was out of stock on the wire that connects to it, so I took the plug off and soldered wires directly to the board. I only hooked up to pins 2,3,4 since I plan on controlling the fan speed with my motherboard. When on the 256 color cycle, you can play/pause it by pushing the button on the control box, or by shorting pin 2 to pin 4. To change the mode, I initially thought it would be to short pins 3 and 4, but it turns out I had to short pins 2 and 3.

I build a small circuit that uses opto-isolators to short them, which I control via my Arduino Uno.



Then, I added the code into my Arduino as well as my Windows App that I have which also controls my led strips. Here's video of it working. The hardware works just fine, however the software has bugs with the sending of the data from the Windows app to the Arduino that causes it to not work sometimes, which is why some of the mouse clicks aren't registering. Also, sorry for the poor quality video. I only have a cell phone that I had to balance on my tea cup to keep it from being too wobbly. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Hi, this is an interesting build. I have the Thermaltake Core X31 which is pretty much the same case except the windows and the front panel. It's a nice case function wise, but i'm not happy with the build quality and the materials used. I think there is miles difference between the Corsair 350D you had, and this one, isn't it ? Other than that, which is a pretty big thing, the case is great, with plenty of room. I'm also looking to put a 360mm radiator in it, but i am thinking of using a 60mm thick radiator at the top, the HWLabs SR2 360. Do you think that is possible with this case, with fans only in push, and not have clearence issues, with ram especially, thinking of using Corsair Dominators at some point.. ?

I see u are using a Nemesis 360GTS if i'm not mistaken at the top, that will fit for sure. Good luck, and i will be following..
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Hi, this is an interesting build. I have the Thermaltake Core X31 which is pretty much the same case except the windows and the front panel. It's a nice case function wise, but i'm not happy with the build quality and the materials used. I think there is miles difference between the Corsair 350D you had, and this one, isn't it ? Other than that, which is a pretty big thing, the case is great, with plenty of room. I'm also looking to put a 360mm radiator in it, but i am thinking of using a 60mm thick radiator at the top, the HWLabs SR2 360. Do you think that is possible with this case, with fans only in push, and not have clearence issues, with ram especially, thinking of using Corsair Dominators at some point.. ?

I see u are using a Nemesis 360GTS if i'm not mistaken at the top, that will fit for sure. Good luck, and i will be following..

I think this case is on par with my 350D for build quality. The metals of the View 31 are the same thickness as the 350D so the frame is just as sturdy. The front panel on the 350D is a thin strip of brushed aluminum glued to plastic. So, it's less likely to suffer from scratches than the acrylic front of the View 31. However, the side panels of the View 31 are sturdier than on the 350D. The side panels on the 350D are quite flimsy and the acrylic side window does scratch easily. The View 31 gives you a bunch of mounting options while the 350D is one way or you have to mod. The 350D is a fantastic case, but it's outdated now and I was looking for something different. I did look at Corsair's crystal series, but I just didn't like what they had to offer. I hate how they look like they just stripped the shell off a case and bolted on glass panels.

I chose the 360GTS for the top since it's only 30mm so it'll fit there without covering up the mobo (there's around 55mm of space between the top and where the mobo sits. It is possible to stuff even the GTR up there, but you have to mount it in the front and it covers up part of the ram. I do believe that ram will fit. If you look at this video, the guy puts in ram that also looks like high profile. I can't tell what kind it is though. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Fan Control (Update) Edit: wiring is bad here look at next post

I couldn't help myself, I wound up modifying my fans to run off of an Arduino Uno. I wrote up a tutorial here. Here's a potato video of it working.
I managed to put them all in today. Here's the Arduino Uno in place with the breadboard I'm using.

Soo many wires...

Final image. I also put some carbon fiber wrap on the top and bottom.

Edited by Inelastic - 4/21/17 at 5:46pm
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Fan Control (Update 2)

The day after I wired it up, I realized that my wiring job is all wrong. I wired it up like you would one led, but I didn't take into account the extra current draw from each led could overload the output pins on the Arduino. So, I had to totally rewire it. I had to use n-channel mosfets and wire them up just like you would any smd5050 strip. I also soldered in a resistor into each of the r,g, and b wires coming from the fans instead of using one resistor for them all. I also need to power the Arduino off of the 12V rail from my power supply so it can supply enough current for all the leds. My plan is to purchase something like this off of Amazon and wire it to connect through a 4-pin molex connector. Right now, I'm powering it off of a 12V 4A external supply that I have.


It looks the same, but now I know I won't be burning out my Arduino.




I've also wired up the leds on the reservoir I'm using. It's a Monsoon MMRS 100mm tube reservoir with black chrome accessories. I put 2x led strips on the back (Neopixels) and they'll be controlled through my Windows led app as well. I attached them to led extrusions and affixed them to the back.

Rocket Pop anyone?
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Dude love where this is heading. You've solved on of the biggest drawbacks of those thermsltake RGB fans. And that res looks amazing.
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Dude love where this is heading. You've solved on of the biggest drawbacks of those thermsltake RGB fans. And that res looks amazing.

Hey thanks. It took a massive amount of time to wire them all up, but I'm happy with the results.
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RGB Matrix

I purchased a 32x32, 4mm pitch, rgb matrix. My plan is to install it in the front, above the fans in the extra space. I'll be using it to display the water temperature (that's what it's doing now).
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