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Hey there
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I am looking for a Linux to use with Windows 7 or Vista ,getting rid of W10 ,since its the worst Windows i ever used ,main reason committed memory ,so idiotic ,total fail.
Anyway ,please help me find a good Linux ,a free one or 25$ if there are Linuxes like that.
 
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You didn't really provide any requirements. Ubuntu is easy out of the box and has a lot of online material for help.

https://www.ubuntu.com/
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main reason committed memory ,so idiotic ,total fail.
Realistically this exists in all operating systems.
So you are saying that i forgot that Vista or Windows 7 over used my memory too ? like W10 ?
in use 2gb , committed memory 3gb , in use 5GB ,committed memory = 8,5GB ... W10 is the only system that I was forced to use a pagefile ,or i will constantly get out of memory message ,this makes so much sense to hold so much trash in the Committed memory and users having no access to view what is there ... as far as anyone can tell ,it can be full of keylogger and much more harmful stuff ...

I simply need a decent Linux , I no longer buy games that use Dx11 ,Dx 12 is total scam ,since its only work on W10 and XO (Xbox One) ,interested only in Vulkan supported games and i will use Vista or Windows 7 for anything older

So asking for anyone with experience with any Linux ,looking for recommendations
 
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Originally Posted by beers View Post

You didn't really provide any requirements. Ubuntu is easy out of the box and has a lot of online material for help.

https://www.ubuntu.com/
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main reason committed memory ,so idiotic ,total fail.
Realistically this exists in all operating systems.
So you are saying that i forgot that Vista or Windows 7 over used my memory too ? like W10 ?
in use 2gb , committed memory 3gb , in use 5GB ,committed memory = 8,5GB ... W10 is the only system that I was forced to use a pagefile ,or i will constantly get out of memory message ,this makes so much sense to hold so much trash in the Committed memory and users having no access to view what is there ... as far as anyone can tell ,it can be full of keylogger and much more harmful stuff ...

I simply need a decent Linux , I no longer buy games that use Dx11 ,Dx 12 is total scam ,since its only work on W10 and XO (Xbox One) ,interested only in Vulkan supported games and i will use Vista or Windows 7 for anything older

So asking for anyone with experience with any Linux ,looking for recommendations
Linux will also use a pagefile. If you don't want to use page file you will need to use DOS or DOS-like environments as Win 7 and Vista will create a page file if they deep it necessary, with or without your permission and you don't understand how Windows reserves memory and keeps frequently used DLL's and files in RAM ready for access.
 
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Umm ,W10 is by far the worst windows I ever used ,sorry but that is my honest opinion ,Vista or Windows 7 never created pagefile ,all i had on those OSes was 400mb pagefile for BSOD and related stuff
You created the page file yourself, Windows didn't need to create one or expand it.

Win Spy is terrible but not for your reasons, you just don't understand how Windows or any OS works as even Linux will cache things in RAM.
 
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Try Ubuntu or Linux mint if you want something easy.

On the other hand, ram is cheap... buy more, problem solved.
W10 is a good OS if you can look past the spyware.

Good luck finding an OS that doesn't use a pagefile / swap space
 
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Looks like you have 8gb or RAM which is plenty for typical gaming scenarios. If your system is caching things, you must have some background processes that are chewing up a fair amount. While I certainly like Linux, I dont think this will rectify your situation which looks to be exceeding your current available RAM. As for the question, Mint is an easy to use and fairly familiar looking distro that is free. Native gaming support does suck though.
 
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Forget ubuntu, manjaro is what you want, boots up in 2 sec on one of my old core2duo machines.
Manjaro is a userfriendly version of Arch linux (the best linux).

It handles system updates and application updates automatically using pacman and/or octopi and makes installing apps very easy through these applets.

Manjaro also offers other desktop environments (mint, lxde from memory) distros so you're not forced to go KDE (although kde is pretty sweet
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Yatsuke drop down terminal is a nice touch on kde also.

Lots of support (can follow any guide for Arch Linux)
 
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Linux Mint Cinnamon, just works not super heavy on resources. connects easiy to Wifi, BT, phones, cameras etc.
Mint was hacked not too long ago, the hackers replaced dodgy iso's in the repo's and many people downloaded the compromised distros.
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/
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The architectural design of Linux Mint inherits a great deal from its upstream sources Debian and Ubuntu (which is itself based upon Debian). Unfortunately, it lacks any sort of security advisories-Linux Mint evangelists insist that referring to the Ubuntu or Debian advisories is sufficient. Not every package in Linux Mint is available in Ubuntu or Debian, and this argument is further complicated by the fact that updates that work perfectly in Ubuntu or Debian are blacklisted by the Linux Mint team due to compatibility issues.
Mint don't update their kernel very frequently (too keep stability and infrequent updates) - which means it doesn't get some security updates for a long time. This is not good!

Also with the hack, the backdoor-ridden copies of linux mint are now floating around to be used maliciously, so be careful where you get it from.

Linux mint 18 doesn't even come stock with codecs (licensing issues) for watching ur fav. rips
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+1 for Manjaro. Installing on a flash drive makes trying distros a bit easier.
 
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Can i be the guy to say install gentoo?, but seriously linux mint seems to be the easiest to transition to.
Yes, Gentoo! It's like a GUI version of Arch Linux.

To the OP:

If you are very new to Linux and don't want to have any hassle, there is not much choice other than Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

If you are willing to learn and willing to bear with some hassle, you can try Debian, Fedora, openSUSE, Cent OS, Arch Linux, Gentoo, etc. Linux has different desktop environments, which makes the layout of things appear different, if you want something similar to Windows layout, you can try, MATE, KDE LXDE, XFCE, etc. GNOME and Unity look radically different than Windows.
 
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+1 for Manjaro. Installing on a flash drive makes trying distros a bit easier.
Manjaro will also boot off a usb (live distro), it welcomes you with a Manjaro splash screen which includes a button to install to machine, so you can basically boot the operating system, try it out, and when you are happy, click install.
 
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Yes, Gentoo! It's like a GUI version of Arch Linux.

To the OP:

If you are very new to Linux and don't want to have any hassle, there is not much choice other than Ubuntu and Linux Mint.

If you are willing to learn and willing to bear with some hassle, you can try Debian, Fedora, openSUSE, Cent OS, Arch Linux, Gentoo, etc. Linux has different desktop environments, which makes the layout of things appear different, if you want something similar to Windows layout, you can try, MATE, KDE LXDE, XFCE, etc. GNOME and Unity look radically different than Windows.
Manjaro is the GUI version of Arch, literally.
Gentoo can be a pita to setup for a new Linux user, Manjaro was design specifically to make Arch accessible to everyone, with the simplest possible installation and enough out-of-the-box functionality to get you going immediately.

With desktop environments, whilst some look like windows and some don't, none of them are difficult to understand, they are all logically laid out and there shouldn't be a steep learning curve no matter the choice (except maybe for elementary OS, which has had so much functionality stripped from it to achieve it's aesthetics that its stupid.)
 
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I will be formatting my SSD and probably slicing it ,is 21GB enough for Linux ? or maybe i should slice the 2nd SSD and use it for Linux and the 1st for Windows . I am not that good with booting ,only know how to boot from different Sata #

https://www.linux.com/news/learn/sysadmin/best-linux-distributions-2017
Elementary OS ? o_O
21GB is more than sufficient for any Linux. As for ElementaryOS, it's an Ubuntu-based OS. I would take it over Mint.
 
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Originally Posted by frack0 View Post

Linux Mint Cinnamon, just works not super heavy on resources. connects easiy to Wifi, BT, phones, cameras etc.
Mint was hacked not too long ago, the hackers replaced dodgy iso's in the repo's and many people downloaded the compromised distros.
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/
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The architectural design of Linux Mint inherits a great deal from its upstream sources Debian and Ubuntu (which is itself based upon Debian). Unfortunately, it lacks any sort of security advisories-Linux Mint evangelists insist that referring to the Ubuntu or Debian advisories is sufficient. Not every package in Linux Mint is available in Ubuntu or Debian, and this argument is further complicated by the fact that updates that work perfectly in Ubuntu or Debian are blacklisted by the Linux Mint team due to compatibility issues.
Mint don't update their kernel very frequently (too keep stability and infrequent updates) - which means it doesn't get some security updates for a long time. This is not good!

Also with the hack, the backdoor-ridden copies of linux mint are now floating around to be used maliciously, so be careful where you get it from.

Linux mint 18 doesn't even come stock with codecs (licensing issues) for watching ur fav. rips
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The dodgy ISO's were removed from the servers and replaced with proper ones. Who on earth downloads Linux ISO's from random torrent sites when they can be obtained for free from the original source? And mint is equal to Ubuntu LTS but with lots of tweaks, which to me make Mint far better than Ubuntu or other Debian derivatives.
 
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This thread is turning into the good-old "Use (*insert the distro I am currently running*) for it is the bestes in the world because (*insert the reasons you used to convince yourself why you needed to switch to this distro*). But stay away from (*insert the distro you where using just before this one*) because (*reasons you used to convince yourself to drop said distro)."
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i run mint on my dell xps 420 core 2 duo 8gb ram desktop and running it from a 16gb flash drive and it runs pretty fast:) I had Ubuntu but i like mint better. Now its not my main pc by any means cause im a gamer and i need windows:( So i run windows on anything game related.

If ever Linux can start supporting everything game related i will go right to it and use it as my main os.
 
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This thread is turning into the good-old "Use (*insert the distro I am currently running*) for it is the bestes in the world because (*insert the reasons you used to convince yourself why you needed to switch to this distro*). But stay away from (*insert the distro you where using just before this one*) because (*reasons you used to convince yourself to drop said distro)."
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use Ubuntu because it's easy for beginners. The installation process is pretty much self-explanatory. But stay away from Arch because you would need to have an instruction book on-hand (or have a web browser open on your phone/a different computer) when installing it.

If you don't want any memory swapping to disk, during Ubuntu installation you can click the "Something Else" option and it'll let you choose how to partition the drive. By not creating a swap partition you can force Ubuntu to use RAM only (but risk stuff crashing if you run out).
 
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i run mint on my dell xps 420 core 2 duo 8gb ram desktop and running it from a 16gb flash drive and it runs pretty fast:) I had Ubuntu but i like mint better. Now its not my main pc by any means cause im a gamer and i need windows:( So i run windows on anything game related.

If ever Linux can start supporting everything game related i will go right to it and use it as my main os.
I have Mint XFCE installed on a USB drive with 4GB of persistent space. I used it on the AIO when it didn't have a working HD and it worked acceptably. It wasn't perfect and I put in a defective HD because all it needs is to run plex.
 
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Another +1 for Manjaro. It's got 2 officially supported DE's: KDE and XFCE (and maybe Budgie now, I think). Also, it scales from super easy to very complex. You can just install and run stuff (Steam is included and ready to go) or you can tweak it to your heart's desire. Lots of wiggle room, very stable, rolling release, and a great community (with Arch support as well, since it's based on Arch). I'd recommend you try it out!

But the most important thing is this: What do you use your computer for? Professional work? Gaming only? Light use like web browsing and youtube? You gotta answer that question first and foremost!
 
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