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Looking at specs shows the note 4 is slower than iphone 7... What are you talking about?

Well, the Note 4 has a Quad core, S-pen, 1440P screen, 3GB RAM, bigger battery, etc. It should be the faster phone based purely on specs.

What's interesting is that my Nexus 7 (2013) is still fairly fast, but its actual internals are completely inferior to the Note 4, and yet, my Nexus 7 feels faster in day-to-day use... again, it's all about optimization.
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I don't really understand this business about fast performance in a smart phone to be honest. Every phone I've owned since my GS4 has been plenty fast enough for me. I've never had an iPhone but i have an iPad Air and an iPad Pro 9.7 so I am very familiar with iOS and their SOC's and, again, Apple's products indeed perform fine. I don't see any of this mythical speed that Pistol keeps talking about as my Note 5, 7, and S7E are all just as fast and responsive as either of my iPads are. What is truly important to me in a smart phone is the design and aesthetics of the device as well as the camera (the one area where phones today blow my old GS4 out of the water). There is simply not a "bad" performing flagship phone these days and there hasn't been for quite some time so all of this talk about performance and benchmarks strikes me as just trivial and irrelevant. But then that's just my opinion.
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Well, the Note 4 has a Quad core, S-pen, 1440P screen, 3GB RAM, bigger battery, etc. It should be the faster phone based purely on specs.

What's interesting is that my Nexus 7 (2013) is still fairly fast, but its actual internals are completely inferior to the Note 4, and yet, my Nexus 7 feels faster in day-to-day use... again, it's all about optimization.

Quad core is old (2014 Snapdragon 805, 1440p screen means lower 3d performance, S-pen does not affect performance, bigger battery doesn't affect performance.

Nexus phones have no bloat. We all know Samsung's addition to android affects performance the most.

Not sure why Samsung did not go dual camera... See back in the day they would be the first to do these things. Now even Apple is beating them to new features. Got to commend Apple on the dual camera setup. It works nicely thumb.gif

But just the looks of the S8 will have a lot of people buying.
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My M8 had dual camera and it wasn't anything special at all. The S7 does not have dual cameras and yet it still takes better shots than the iP7 Plus in my opinion. Talk about gimmicks...
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My M8 had dual camera and it wasn't anything special at all. The S7 does not have dual cameras and yet it still takes better shots than the iP7 Plus in my opinion. Talk about gimmicks...

Dual cameras can be set to work in different ways. Apple's implementation is good and useful.
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Funny how DSLR's can "make due" with one lens and sensor. Samsung's cameras are generally regarded as among the very best in the industry so I don't think the lack of dual cameras really has much impact. The pictures I take with my phone far surpass the quality that I would find acceptable for such an image but, yes, Apple's cameras are also very good. What Samsung offers with the S8 are other more important features to me than dual cameras (wireless charging, edge display, AMOLED display, 6.2" screen area on the Plus in a compact chassis, USB-C, micro-SD slot, dual-SIM slot, fast-charging, IP68 rated water resistance, aesthetically pleasing glass/metal build quality, etc).

What I am NOT saying is that the S8 is the only great phone out there (I personally like the iPhone 7 a lot, especially the Plus) but that the S8 is among the very best phones ever made and features just about everything that I personally want in a smart phone. Its not perfect (the fingerprint reader is in a stupid position by the camera) but it is absolutely fantastic overall. Everybody likes different things so its lucky that we have so much choice and competition in the smart phone industry these days (imagine if we got so much choice in the GPU and CPU sectors).
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Funny how DSLR's can "make due" with one lens and sensor. Samsung's cameras are generally regarded as among the very best in the industry so I don't think the lack of dual cameras really has much impact. The pictures I take with my phone far surpass the quality that I would find acceptable for such an image but, yes, Apple's cameras are also very good. What Samsung offers with the S8 are other more important features to me than dual cameras (wireless charging, edge display, AMOLED display, 6.2" screen area on the Plus in a compact chassis, USB-C, micro-SD slot, dual-SIM slot, fast-charging, IP68 rated water resistance, aesthetically pleasing glass/metal build quality, etc).

What I am NOT saying is that the S8 is the only great phone out there (I personally like the iPhone 7 a lot, especially the Plus) but that the S8 is among the very best phones ever made and features just about everything that I personally want in a smart phone. Its not perfect (the fingerprint reader is in a stupid position by the camera) but it is absolutely fantastic overall. Everybody likes different things so its lucky that we have so much choice and competition in the smart phone industry these days (imagine if we got so much choice in the GPU and CPU sectors).

I just find iPhone boring + Google Apps > Apple Apps though u can use them in iOS it defeats the purpose.
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Funny how DSLR's can "make due" with one lens and sensor. Samsung's cameras are generally regarded as among the very best in the industry so I don't think the lack of dual cameras really has much impact. The pictures I take with my phone far surpass the quality that I would find acceptable for such an image but, yes, Apple's cameras are also very good. What Samsung offers with the S8 are other more important features to me than dual cameras (wireless charging, edge display, AMOLED display, 6.2" screen area on the Plus in a compact chassis, USB-C, micro-SD slot, dual-SIM slot, fast-charging, IP68 rated water resistance, aesthetically pleasing glass/metal build quality, etc).

What I am NOT saying is that the S8 is the only great phone out there (I personally like the iPhone 7 a lot, especially the Plus) but that the S8 is among the very best phones ever made and features just about everything that I personally want in a smart phone. Its not perfect (the fingerprint reader is in a stupid position by the camera) but it is absolutely fantastic overall. Everybody likes different things so its lucky that we have so much choice and competition in the smart phone industry these days (imagine if we got so much choice in the GPU and CPU sectors).

well i do not shop around for hat is ok or acceptable. Especially when something is priced at $900. I am sure the iPhone 7 will take better pics when zoomed because of dual cameras.

If wide angle shots are my thing, LG dual camera setup with wide angle camera is an option.

If monochrome shots are my thing I can hit up Huawei with Leica Dual Camera.

If I want a phone with good normal camera there is the Google Pixel.

DSLR has optical zoom and can change lens to wide angle. Your phone does not.
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GSM Arena users are going for value this round lachen.gif

900 Euros is very pricey though.



http://www.gsmarena.com/weekly_poll_results_galaxy_s8_a_bit_pricey_voters_want_value_for_money-blog-24309.php
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I think Samsung are the best phone manufacturers out there at the moment, and I have an S7 Edge on a 12-month contract. I absolutely love it. It's due for renewal, but I can't justify going to an S8 or an S8+. I feel like the devices have been rushed and are half-finished.

The fingerprint sensor on the back is my major irk with it. I think Samsung really blew it with that and thought, "we don't have time to put it in the screen, so let's put it somewhere as inaccessible as possible". I have a couple of demo S8 devices where I work, and every time I go to hit the fingerprint sensor, I end up smudging the camera lens instead. It's really annoying.

The iris scanner is a big feature on the S8, much the same as it was with the Note7. It has matured slightly and seems a little more reliable, but all in all it still needs some work for it to be more consistent. Facial recognition I haven't tried yet.

Bixby... well I'd personally have no use for that to be honest. I do everything myself and set my folders and apps up so I have the easiest access possible in the shortest time.

I feel that the major changes to the devices have been done aesthetically (are you reading this, Apple?). The screen looks amazing - I love the rounded corners, the phone is a slightly different shape to the S7E as the back is more rounded making it easier to grip. Aside from that, however, I don't feel there's anything that would pull me towards committing to an S8. My S7E screen is still amazing to look at, anyway.

What I'll probably do is wait for the Note8 as I feel that'll have everything that the S8 should have had; stereo speakers, bigger battery, in-screen fingerprint sensor, faster quick-charge. Here's hoping, anyway.
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