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Can anyone at all elaborate, with facts, on what exactly the 5 year term means?

Obviously they couldn't have tested it for 5 years.

So is it 5 years with a certain number of hours usage per day?

8 hours a day, 5 days a weeks is 10,400 hours.
They do aceelerated life testing with increased temperature and humidity or temperature cycling. They will have already determined what the acceleration factors are for the test conditions and then run them over a few months. Reliability 101.
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Originally Posted by Seven7h View Post

Much ado about nothing guys.

Use your heads. It doesn't mean your GPU will only last 5 years. Most (99%) will last much, much longer.

It means that for all GPUs in the bin of the sold product, the few outliers on the low end of the bell curve will only reach 5 years. That's an absolute worst case.

The 5 year metric for the low end of the bin is pretty standard for electronics. Besides, after 5 years your GPU is pretty much only useful as a GPU to power extra displays or a non-gaming rig anyway.
Yeah, I have to agree that this whole "5 years" stiuation is a bit overblown.

5 years ago, I was still using 550tis. Both of those cards, as well as one of the 770s that replaced them, are still functional today, and those 770s ran OCed to 1.25GHz on F@H for years as my space heater for my bedroom (770 #2 was recently killed by it's new owner via over-watered plant)

I know people who have been running water-cooled OCed 980s and 980tis for years, all overvolted slightly. Unless nvidia massively screwed pascal, there is no way the average OCed GPU will last only 2 years. 5 years is worst case, most GPUs will outlive their useful lifespans easily. Even if they did only last 5 years, cards like the 680 would just be hitting 5 years, and they are not super useful for modern games anymore.

Any decently cooled 10xx series card will live far beyond it's useful life. OVing can kill cards, but that is nothing new.
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Yeah, I have to agree that this whole "5 years" stiuation is a bit overblown.

5 years ago, I was still using 550tis. Both of those cards, as well as one of the 770s that replaced them, are still functional today, and those 770s ran OCed to 1.25GHz on F@H for years as my space heater for my bedroom (770 #2 was recently killed by it's new owner via over-watered plant)

I know people who have been running water-cooled OCed 980s and 980tis for years, all overvolted slightly. Unless nvidia massively screwed pascal, there is no way the average OCed GPU will last only 2 years. 5 years is worst case, most GPUs will outlive their useful lifespans easily. Even if they did only last 5 years, cards like the 680 would just be hitting 5 years, and they are not super useful for modern games anymore.

Any decently cooled 10xx series card will live far beyond it's useful life. OVing can kill cards, but that is nothing new.



My 7950 can run 4k pretty well at medium at like 30-45 fps.


Still ample life left in those 680.

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Yeah, I have to agree that this whole "5 years" stiuation is a bit overblown.

5 years ago, I was still using 550tis. Both of those cards, as well as one of the 770s that replaced them, are still functional today, and those 770s ran OCed to 1.25GHz on F@H for years as my space heater for my bedroom (770 #2 was recently killed by it's new owner via over-watered plant)

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Any decently cooled 10xx series card will live far beyond it's useful life. OVing can kill cards, but that is nothing new.

To be fair, Nvidia is talking about Pascal 14nm cards, not the older nodes like Kepler or Fermi which weren't as susceptible to electron migration due to their larger process. But I agree, my Titans are now four years old and I've beat on them mercilessly for their whole lives and they still function exactly the same as they did when new. I mean, I've used as much as 1.45v on these Titans for extended benching sessions for years and they are fine.
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Two of the three major console players use AMD. Surely Nvidia holds the performance crown but AMD is competitive in the lower regions. Meanwhile, Nvidia IS the more shady company. Physx, g-sync and gameworks to name the big proprietary gems. Sure they might work well, but it is a blatant attempt at dividing the hardware market in a way that definitely harms consumers. Meanwhile, AMD introduced us to Mantle and made Vulkan possible.

The PhysX FleX effects I've seen are amazing (just check out Nvidia's FleX demo). Killing Floor 2 has done some amazing stuff w/PhysX Flex effects.

Even in Fallout 4, the PhysX FleX effects are noticeable.
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Two of the three major console players use AMD. Surely Nvidia holds the performance crown but AMD is competitive in the lower regions. Meanwhile, Nvidia IS the more shady company. Physx, g-sync and gameworks to name the big proprietary gems. Sure they might work well, but it is a blatant attempt at dividing the hardware market in a way that definitely harms consumers. Meanwhile, AMD introduced us to Mantle and made Vulkan possible.

Also, you're almost talking as if the 4870 never happened. I'm looking forward to a healthy competition between future Volta and Vega cards.

Agreed thumb.gif
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OP's Youtube link is broken. Here is the interview with nVidia's Tom Petersen regarding overvolting GPUs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79-s8byUkxk&feature=youtu.be&t=15m35s
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I overclocked my titan xp last week when i got it. It died today frown.gif...
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I overclocked my titan xp last week when i got it. It died today frown.gif...

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