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plugged in my G403 but couldn't find any anomalies. i guess a possibility is that your pad has a different surface and is somehow upsetting the sensor, but i can't imagine that being the case.
i mean, if you have this issue on the glass pad but not on your other pads, that quickly hints to LOD. but since you said you tried factory LOD, as well as cleaned the pad.. upsidedwnsmiley.gif

anyway, i saw no anomalies when i checked some plots in mousetester, nothing that indicates delay or accel. not sure what specifically i could try.

if you still have LGS installed, maybe try a few more LOD settings? biggrin.gif
unlikely. but not impossible! nerdsmiley.png

maybe it's just in your head? unlikely.. but not impossible! coolsmiley03.png

Idk, sometimes placebos manifest like that. Buuuut, It's my favorite surface thus far, and I'm willing to use it over the others regardless, so it makes me wonder how I could think that there's anything detrimental with it...

Very confoosed.

I'd also have trouble RMAing a mouse to Logitech for some invisible problem that isn't extremely obvious lol
    
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Sounds really similar to the steelseries experience i-2 (icemat rebrand) blue that I have. Tracking issue where the mouse would randomly skip or fixated-jitter at any spot. Tried with kpm, castor, avior7k. Also was only able to track at all with higher LoD.
post #43 of 52
I think such anomalies do exist. Years ago I encountered 2 MS IME 3.0 mice bought together behaving differently on the same white Icemat, yet having no issues on other pads. I've never been able to explain it. One of them tracked fine, the other behaved exactly like you speak of now, along with non-existent LOD.

You could use it like it is now, but sooner or later you will be annoyed. Play around with the G403 settings, or change either mouse or pad.
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I think such anomalies do exist. Years ago I encountered 2 MS IME 3.0 mice bought together behaving differently on the same white Icemat, yet having no issues on other pads. I've never been able to explain it. One of them tracked fine, the other behaved exactly like you speak of now, along with non-existent LOD.

You could use it like it is now, but sooner or later you will be annoyed. Play around with the G403 settings, or change either mouse or pad.

So changing the LOD might fix it? In that case, I don't know why setting the LOD on the pad itself fixes it. :/
    
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So changing the LOD might fix it? In that case, I don't know why setting the LOD on the pad itself fixes it. :/

Hard to say if the LOD fixes it, there could be more to it than I understand.
post #46 of 52
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Ah, the memories of my IceMat from 2002...

I loved the mousepad so much--only wish it had been bigger.

Really ate mousefeet though frown.gif
Still using an icemat luckily i haven't cracked it yet. It does eat mousefeet like any hard pad. I find that preferable though, soft mousepads get worn by mousefeet and hard mousepads wear mousefeet. I find it cheaper and more convent to replace the feet than the pad. I find worn mousefeet more passable than worn spots in a mousepad as well.

Good to see glass mousepads still around. Don't know what route i'm going to take when my icemat finally gives out but really like glass mousepads just because they last forever. Tried aluminum ran into them being too noisy even with different feet. Plastic ones just don't last as well as glass or aluminum so i'm really dug into forever using glass ones.
post #47 of 52
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Yeah guys, it's definitely something. Not making this up or anything. My other two 3366 mice (G Pro and G502) feel exactly the same on this pad both on factory default tuning and tuning specific to the pad. I'd imagine the same sorta thing happens with any other sensor, unless the problem doesn't occur with less accurate sensors.

How do I test this statistically, though? I'm curious lol.
    
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if you're talking about delay? using mousetester, you can plug in two mice, rotate one of them 180 degrees and give one of them a bump on the side. if there's significant delay on the 3366 mice then the plots should show you that the -x counts are behind, relative to the +x counts (or vice versa).
the most difficult part is trying to get both mice to move as horizontally as you can, but if the delay is significant then it should show even with a mediocre setup.

edit: kinda important to have very similar cpi on both mice


it's definitely true that glass is not the ideal surface for some sensors/mice, but i can't recall any issues with my 3366 mice on any of my glass pads.
but if you find a way to recreate whatever is happening, then i'd be happy to check with my setup
Edited by Bucake - 4/12/17 at 12:47am
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if you're talking about delay? using mousetester, you can plug in two mice, rotate one of them 180 degrees and give one of them a bump on the side. if there's significant delay on the 3366 mice then the plots should show you that the -x counts are behind, relative to the +x counts (or vice versa).
the most difficult part is trying to get both mice to move as horizontally as you can, but if the delay is significant then it should show even with a mediocre setup.

edit: kinda important to have very similar cpi on both mice


it's definitely true that glass is not the ideal surface for some sensors/mice, but i can't recall any issues with my 3366 mice on any of my glass pads.
but if you find a way to recreate whatever is happening, then i'd be happy to check with my setup

I'm not even sure what that would look like lol. Could you maybe make a video of it somehow?

;3

Yea ik I'm really stupid guys, sorry. D;
    
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post #50 of 52
My XL has shipped. So excited!
The shipping costs was a PITA and they're offering aluminium covers for an additional charge, to prevent the pad from breaking during shipping.
I was going to wait for the Icy pad since i believe it's larger and i was hoping that it would've been cheaper as well but i couldn't resist.
With the cover it came out to be €75, which is steep. I figured that since glass never really wears out it's a nice investment.
All in all it was about the same price as my alugraphics gamerpro xxl, which i'll retire once the frostpad comes.
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