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Raid 0 Setup with Xbox One

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Hi all,

Not sure if this is the right section for this, as I'm new to these forums. I've learned a lot of things and figured out a bunch of stuff by visiting overclock, so I figured it was time to register and join and ask my questions directly.

I'm also not sure what the rules are regarding posting links to outside information, so I won't do that I'll include the needed information in quotes instead.

I am looking to setup a XBOX One RAID setup for Raid 0. There are RAID enclosures that are compatible with the USB 3.0, and research has shown that the load times are drastically improved upon, and it allows me to conquer two goals at once. I am allowed to expand my storage tremendously and increase boot time. I know it has been done with WD Red Pros, but to me they are way overpriced for the value, and I've seen that WD recommends only using two WD Blacks for Raid 0. Has anyone had any experience using RAID 0 with more than 2 Black drives? I'd really prefer to be able to hold more, but I want to know the pros and cons of doing so. Is it going to increase my risk of burning the drives out?

Here is the information I've gathered so far:
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Hard Drive Read / Write Tests

2014 Retina MBP using Black Magic Disk Speed Test, 1GB ~ 5GB Test Files
I tested the drives first on a Macbook Pro to assess maximum potential. The Macbook Pro’s internal PCIe flash storage would ensure that each drive tested could run to it’s full limit during testing, and give an interesting comparison point to game times loading on the Xbox One.
Speed Test was ran for a minute until times evened out, then three consecutive read and write speed tests were averaged for final score.
Western Digital My Passport Ultra: >106.9MB/s Write >103.2MB/s Read
Buffalo Drivestation DUO 4TB: >253.3MB/s Write >270.6MB/s Read
Red Pro RAID 0 Striped 8TB: >318.9MB/s Write >319.7MB/s Read


Launch Times

All tests were done three separate times, then averaged together. All tests were started with the game not running - so these tests include full game boot time and load time of levels and/or network connectivity and/or server logins. (I have a 30MB Down / 5 Up Connection)
Assassin's Creed: Unity Load Single Player Save Point
Internal - 2:21
WD - 2:24
Buffalo - 1:58
Red Pro: 1:40
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare Launch to Single Player save point - “Terminus"
Internal - 1:39
WD - 1:38
Buffalo - 1:28
Red Pro - 1:01
Destiny Start to Tower. Tests performed three times - 8am EST, 6PM EST, 12am EST.
Internal - 2:58
WD - 3:04
Buffalo - 2:18
Red Pro - 2:08
Dragon Age: Inquisition Launch to Single Player
Internal - 2:12
WD - 2:12
Buffalo - 1:56
Red Pro - 1:28
Far Cry 4 Launch to Single Player Offline Gameplay
Internal - 2:12
WD - 2:14
Buffalo - 2:01
Red Pro - 1:45
Forza 5 Start to Test Track
Internal - 1:31
WD - 1:21
Buffalo - :59
Red Pro - :50
Grand Theft Auto V Launch to Single Player
Internal - 1:38
WD - 1:31
Buffalo - 1:19
Red Pro - :59
Halo: Master Chief Collection Launch to Halo 4 Campaign - Requiem Rally Point Alpha
Internal - :59
WD - 1:05
Buffalo - :45
Red Pro - :40
Ryse: Son of Rome Load Single Player “Trial by Fire"
Internal - 1:55
WD - 1:59
Buffalo - 1:19
Red Pro - 1:13
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http://support.wdc.com/knowledgebase/answer.aspx?ID=996 (Surely a Western Digital link is allowed)

WD desktop hard drives (WD Blue, Green, or Black) have been tested and are recommended for consumer RAID applications when using the drives in a RAID 0 (Stripe) or RAID 1 (Mirror) configuration.

However, there are several things to keep in mind when setting up a RAID with these drives:
•WD only recommends using a Desktop drive in a RAID array with no more than two (2) drives (Raid 0 or Raid 1 only).
•WD is unable to provide direct technical support for setting up RAID arrays for either hardware or software arrays.
•Support for your RAID array can be obtained from one of several sources: 1.If you are setting up a hardware array it is best to contact the manufacturer of your RAID controller or motherboard manufacturer.
2.If you are setting up a software array you can contact the publisher of your RAID software.
3.The publisher of your Operating System (OS) (Usually Apple, or Microsoft) can provide support for the use of a hardware or software RAID configuration within that OS.

•Before connecting a drive to an array, you should verify that the drive is functioning properly. Please use Data Lifeguard Diagnostic for DOS , or Windows Data Lifeguard Diagnostics to perform a test on the drive prior to installation.






Note:
Before testing your drive, WD recommends creating a backup of any data on the hard drive, removing the drive from the RAID controller, and attaching the drive to a standard SATA controller. For specific instructions on how to use our diagnostic utilities, please see the links below:

◦Answer ID 59: How to check an internal drive for defects, problems, corruption, or a power issue
◦Answer ID 940: How to test a drive for problems using Data Lifeguard Diagnostics for Windows


STOP Critical: WD Blue, Green, Red or Black hard drives are not recommended for and are not warranted for use in RAID environments utilizing Enterprise HBAs and/or expanders and in multi-bay chassis, as they are not designed for, nor tested in, these specific types of RAID applications. For all Business Critical RAID applications, please consider WD’s Enterprise Hard Drives that are specifically designed with RAID-specific, time-limited error recovery (TLER), are tested extensively in 24x7 RAID applications, and include features like enhanced RAFF technology and thermal extended burn-in testing.
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But why

A single 3.5" is significantly faster than the integrated XB1 2.5" drive. I don't believe you can boot with an external storage on that appliance.

There's also always the SSD route if you are looking for straight speed, but the cost generally doesn't align with the improvements.
Edited by beers - 3/31/17 at 9:49am
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I have a buddy who actually followed this setup and spent a fortune buying WD Red Pros 4 TB each and used the same enclosure and it works for his, and it works really well. He gets roughly the same times as listed, but I'd like to go one step farther without spending a fortune. I know that WD Blacks generally perform really well, and I've also thought of using RAID 0 with SSD's, just wanting to know if anyone knows how many blacks can work on RAID 0, or if I should just get SSDs and do the same.
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