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Yeah I put the water block on it before the shunt mod info came out I think. Which palit bios are you speaking of. Thank you for your help in advance.

The Palit Game Rock Premium, the one with 350W Power Limit, you will score lower in benchmarks but you will have less to no power limit with conservative clocks.
No power limit helps with frame times, the frequenzy fluctuation while beeing in power limit are producing worse frame times which can feel worse in games even if average fps is higher.
So for gaming it is nice to have no power limiting.
    
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The Palit Game Rock Premium, the one with 350W Power Limit, you will score lower in benchmarks but you will have less to no power limit with conservative clocks.
No power limit helps with frame times, the frequenzy fluctuation while beeing in power limit are producing worse frame times which can feel worse in games even if average fps is higher.
So for gaming it is nice to have no power limiting.

Cool Now I just need to find it I checked on Techpowerup

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I thought the Zotac bios was the best as it lets you use a Power Limit of 384w
as the limit, surely better than the 350w limit on the game rock... bios...
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I thought the Zotac bios was the best as it lets you use a Power Limit of 384w
as the limit, surely better than the 350w limit on the game rock... bios...

The 384W BIOS's don't work on FE's as the cards use completely different types of voltage controllers, clocks are all messed up and stay really low and jump around. frown.gif
    
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The 384W BIOS's don't work on FE's as the cards use completely different types of voltage controllers, clocks are all messed up and stay really low and jump around. frown.gif

So what do you advise for FE owners, i have tried the strix bios and it was good but i gained for some reason better clocks with the zotac xtreme bios
though i plan to shunt mod very soon smile.gif and people say the strix bios on fe`s will not let the shuntmod work correctly...

so should i use the game rock bios then ? for now and it will unlock 350w for fe cards ? and when i shunt mod what should i use ....
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So what do you advise for FE owners, i have tried the strix bios and it was good but i gained for some reason better clocks with the zotac xtreme bios
though i plan to shunt mod very soon smile.gif and people say the strix bios on fe`s will not let the shuntmod work correctly...

so should i use the game rock bios then ? for now and it will unlock 350w for fe cards ? and when i shunt mod what should i use ....

with shunt mod the best bios is the fe bios from nvidia. period.
    
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with shunt mod the best bios is the fe bios from nvidia. period.

I agree the most aggressive BIOS seems to be the standard Nvidia FE. The others such as the Palit despite having lower limiting due to PwR are actually scoring about a half an fps slower in tests averaging ~65fps (Time Spy Graphics Test 2).

I've tested the BIOS' versions all the way up to 2164 and the FE bios is not only the most stable at the higher clocks, but it also pulls better fps.

Not yet confirmed, but I suspect that the TDP play room allotted by Nvidia is used for error correction and the lower TDP BIOS' are actually using the morsel of TDP headroom between the set TDP and normalized TDP (visible in HWInfo64) for error correction and thus increasing stability while the higher TDP BIOS' allow for fewer pwr spikes but actually score lower as a result of lowered error resistance.

The Palit bios for example has the fewest pwr events in the GPUz graph, but in extensively testing it against the FE bios I found the FE.Bios to be faster and more stable.

As far as thermals are concerned, the card is shunt modded and was at -17C idle during my tests so thermal induced throttles were obviously a non issue.
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I agree the most aggressive BIOS seems to be the standard Nvidia FE. The others such as the Palit despite having lower limiting due to PwR are actually scoring about a half an fps slower in tests averaging ~65fps (Time Spy Graphics Test 2).

I've tested the BIOS' versions all the way up to 2164 and the FE bios is not only the most stable at the higher clocks, but it also pulls better fps.

Not yet confirmed, but I suspect that the TDP play room allotted by Nvidia is used for error correction and the lower TDP BIOS' are actually using the morsel of TDP headroom between the set TDP and normalized TDP (visible in HWInfo64) for error correction and thus increasing stability while the higher TDP BIOS' allow for fewer pwr spikes but actually score lower as a result of lowered error resistance.

The Palit bios for example has the fewest pwr events in the GPUz graph, but in extensively testing it against the FE bios I found the FE.Bios to be faster and more stable.

As far as thermals are concerned, the card is shunt modded and was at -17C idle during my tests so thermal induced throttles were obviously a non issue.

Happy that you came to the same conclusion as i did after i showed you the way ;-)

Edit: Do you mean 17° C or do you really meant "-" 17 ° C? If so LN2 or some other exotic cooling?
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Alright guys, im still waiting on my EVGA hybrid, but I did use some Grizzly Hydronaught and temps dropped into the upper 50C range at full load under 100% fan speed. Got the 4.4 beta msi afterburner installed with the unlocked voltage slider. From what I can understand for my EVGA founders edition the best bios to use for oc is just the regular nvidia fe bios correct? Thanks for the help.
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Alright guys, im still waiting on my EVGA hybrid, but I did use some Grizzly Hydronaught and temps dropped into the upper 50C range at full load under 100% fan speed. Got the 4.4 beta msi afterburner installed with the unlocked voltage slider. From what I can understand for my EVGA founders edition the best bios to use for oc is just the regular nvidia fe bios correct? Thanks for the help.

If its shunt moded for sure, if not there is the palit game rock premium bios which is a considerable alternative. KedarWolf had some good results with the Asus Strix OC bios as well.
Worth to mention that i haven't got a display signal out of displayport using the asus strix bios, had to use a hdmi port and cable, wierd but yeah...
But tbh i would simply go with the nvidia fe bios and be done with it, seems to be the best in general on a fe card.
    
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