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You do not need an 'intelligent' OS to email you when your clothing has been washed, nor do you need your coffee maker or kettle to email you when the water is ready. I just can't grasp why you need light bulbs or the toilet connected to the internet, the lie that it will save electricity is as transparent as it gets because internet connection uses electricity so what possible excuse could there be?

You don't "need" almost anything people buy. You only "need" enough food to not starve to death, what's up with all these people eating 3 meals a day?

"Smart" devices are only getting more popular, it's clear people want them. The appropriate response is to criticize the lack of security on most of them, not their existence.

Also, two devices can both use "electricity", but one can use less than the other. You can most definitely use less electricity by adding a device that needs electricity itself, but makes the original one use less.
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It's worse than you might think for a smart TV, you don't need to discover it's ip or get around any security that might be at the boarder of it's lan. Most of them can be taken over with a malicious broadcast signal (made locally from a low power transmitter) - you have to unplug its internet and its aerial to be safe and just watch blu-rays.

https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/03/smart-tv-hack-embeds-attack-code-into-broadcast-signal-no-access-required/
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Why does a vacuum cleaner need an OS...
i would say the portable ones using lithium polymer batteries need low power alarms or overpower alarms and then it would need something to adjust the juice the motor gets as those lipo batteries have huge amp ratings at full burst, or it could need an OS to keep the fancy lights blinking....
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Since when has a Samsung homegrown OS succeeded? Bada and now Tizen? Just stick to Android guys it works. lachen.gif
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You do not need an 'intelligent' OS to email you when your clothing has been washed, nor do you need your coffee maker or kettle to email you when the water is ready. I just can't grasp why you need light bulbs or the toilet connected to the internet, the lie that it will save electricity is as transparent as it gets because internet connection uses electricity so what possible excuse could there be?

You don't "need" almost anything people buy. You only "need" enough food to not starve to death, what's up with all these people eating 3 meals a day?

"Smart" devices are only getting more popular, it's clear people want them. The appropriate response is to criticize the lack of security on most of them, not their existence.

Also, two devices can both use "electricity", but one can use less than the other. You can most definitely use less electricity by adding a device that needs electricity itself, but makes the original one use less.

Just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good. Facebook is popular and yet it has added nothing to the world and in fact has made social interactions more awkward and difficult as well as creating thousands of social media addicts.

 

There is no security when it comes to iot as they are just another metadata gathering tool.

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Open the fridge to check what's in it? So 2016.

It's not a big deal as long as you don't care about your privacy.

It certainly doesn't get in the way of governments obtaining that data.

All valuable data is being handed over to governments so that products can be further improved with back doors, more spying tools and less privacy.

In time we will have camera's and microphones in our toilets and all because you people are too blind to see where we are going. Orwell... what a seer.

You're being paranoid. The only way to live completely securely in this day and age is to move into an underground cave with your own farm, but that's no way to live now is it? It's silly to view everything through a libertarian cyber-security lens.

Not to mention that there was no need to reply to me... my post was making an entirely different point.
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You're being paranoid. The only way to live completely securely in this day and age is to move into an underground cave with your own farm, but that's no way to live now is it? It's silly to view everything through a libertarian cyber-security lens.

Not to mention that there was no need to reply to me... my post was making an entirely different point.
I'm not sure about anybody else here but living in a vault sounds pretty sweet actually.
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You're being paranoid. The only way to live completely securely in this day and age is to move into an underground cave with your own farm, but that's no way to live now is it? It's silly to view everything through a libertarian cyber-security lens.

Not to mention that there was no need to reply to me... my post was making an entirely different point.
Read wikileaks and the snowden documents, its not paranoia. BTW giving away every aspect of your private life willingly is just plain stupidity... rolleyes.gif
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"Linux based" Tizen as if that mattered. ZDNet, your bias is showing.


Edited by Omega X - 4/12/17 at 10:20pm
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Read wikileaks and the snowden documents, its not paranoia. BTW giving away every aspect of your private life willingly is just plain stupidity... rolleyes.gif

How many times have you been detained because of your Facebook history? Being concerned with your privacy is completely different from letting possibilities of CIA having your sex tape deter you from buying a product.

I did actually read analysis on the WikiLeaks documents, probably one of the only ones in this thread who did. Which is why I do not have a concern with Sammy products.
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