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The store beside my home has it on stock.
I Wonder if I would take it or not...

To what I read on Web from different reviews and here on the dedictaed thread, this card seems to be average poorely overclockable.

My target is to play with clock, so 2050MHz at 1.093V would be for me a good target.

Do you advise me this card according to this ?
Is Silicon lottery poor with it ?

Thanks.

Depends, the best cards so far as Silicon lottery is concerned is the very first batch of Founders Editions that came out on release. All cards since then are about the same. Don't get this Aorus card if you are not willing to do some tweaking and minor modification.

Also a note on overclocking. This card seems poorly overclock able only because the base factory OC is already so high, the work has already been done for you. If you want the best overclocks, try you luck on a Founder's Edition or wait for one of the extreme HOF or Kingpin cards later which can do 1.2V via hardware tools. The current cards are all pretty much the same and the key thing that separates them is noise and cooling (better cooling = better overclock stability with Pascal).
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Depends, the best cards so far as Silicon lottery is concerned is the very first batch of Founders Editions that came out on release. All cards since then are about the same. Don't get this Aorus card if you are not willing to do some tweaking and minor modification.

Also a note on overclocking. This card seems poorly overclock able only because the base factory OC is already so high, the work has already been done for you. If you want the best overclocks, try you luck on a Founder's Edition or wait for one of the extreme HOF or Kingpin cards later which can do 1.2V via hardware tools. The current cards are all pretty much the same and the key thing that separates them is noise and cooling (better cooling = better overclock stability with Pascal).

I was wondering how the the FE cards With 6+8 pins and basic cooling could have the best overclock capabilities ....?
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I was wondering how the the FE cards With 6+8 pins and basic cooling could have the best overclock capabilities ....?

Quite simple. Pascal overclocking is 95% determined by the quality of the GP102 die as it comes from the fab. The boost 3.0 mechanism already used up the easy OC headroom from 1583-1900mhz range that people/AIBs were traditionally easily able to extract from their chips (think back to 780ti and 980ti), the 1900mhz + range requires gradually more perfect chips as you approach 2100mhz and beyond that also requires more voltage. In 980ti terms, 1900mhz+ to the 1080ti is the same as getting a 980ti to 1550mhz+, it requires a good chip.

It was long suspected that the Founders Edition cards that first came out all had extremely good quality chips (usually centre die ones that didn't have all functional cores but the same excellent wiring), partly because also NVIDIA needed a good PR image on launch due to the limited cooling capacity of the FE cooler, thus having better binned chips makes you look better in reviews etc etc. Now the AIB partners I suspect got the bulk of the GP102 chips much later thus most ended up being high leakage or low clocking ones. That would explain why the AIB cards are not clocking as well as the FE cards that first came out, even the FE cards now are not as good as the first batch bought straight from NVIDIA.
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Have had the card for a few weeks and I noticed today that there appears to be some kind of runoff over where LED is. I took the card out and looked over all the sides to see if it was one of the thermal pads but didnt seem any of the externally visible ones had melted in anyway. My best guess is it some kind of tape/adhesive that is very close to the LED rather than some thermal pads. I dont really feel like taking off the backplate to fix it but I assume this shouldn't be anything to worry about?
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I wouldnt based on personal experience. Grag msi or evga.

Get out of this thread then it's called silicon lottery you got an ok one. Can't smear a whole brand over crying because you got a average chip.
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The store beside my home has it on stock.
I Wonder if I would take it or not...

To what I read on Web from different reviews and here on the dedictaed thread, this card seems to be average poorely overclockable.

My target is to play with clock, so 2050MHz at 1.093V would be for me a good target.

Do you advise me this card according to this ?
Is Silicon lottery poor with it ?

Thanks.
mine holds 2088 w/o adding volts and it's not even an extreme. why not try it? Don't listen to the soured people. Maybe they didnt have a reciept to return it to the store with if they didnt like it. The hometown store allows for as many returns as you need to get a gold one. Why would you not try?

And MSI is trash, dont buy that one.
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mine holds 2088 w/o adding volts and it's not even an extreme. why not try it? Don't listen to the soured people. Maybe they didnt have a reciept to return it to the store with if they didnt like it. The hometown store allows for as many returns as you need to get a gold one. Why would you not try?

And MSI is trash, dont buy that one.

MSi was great until they discontinued their High End Lightning Series for the Gaming ones. I had the 3GB GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Edition then a GTX 780 Lightning. Very solid cards I remember I had 1.35GHz on the core on my old 780.

Aorus was a fine replacement for high end variants IMO smile.gif
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MSi was great until they discontinued their High End Lightning Series for the Gaming ones. I had the 3GB GTX 580 Lightning Xtreme Edition then a GTX 780 Lightning. Very solid cards I remember I had 1.35GHz on the core on my old 780.

Aorus was a fine replacement for high end variants IMO smile.gif
agreed. I miss the lightning. I just don't like how they have looked the exact same since at least an r9 270x , the 970, 980, the 1070, 1080, 980ti, 1080ti, and the gaming x are the same. And in particular, these 1080ti, i have seen a bunch of ~2000 and not 1 gaming x owner claim to have a golden yet. So, as i sit here (blessed) with a 2088 Aorus, msi's name have deteriorated with me. "trash" was a bit harsh and not truly indicative of how I feel. More like disappointed in them lately and I imagine the volta will have a whole new cooler design/look as well as bringing out a High End version again, like Lightning. Seems leadership over on the island took a weird turn. Or just got plain lazy.
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iam getting my AORUS GeForce GTX1080Ti (non-extreme) tomorrow.
ive one question:
is it recommended to flash latest bios? does it work via DP? ive read ive to use the HDMI-Bios flash file. is that correct?
can i flash the aorus extreme bios aswell?
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iam getting my AORUS GeForce GTX1080Ti (non-extreme) tomorrow.
ive one question:
is it recommended to flash latest bios? does it work via DP? ive read ive to use the HDMI-Bios flash file. is that correct?
can i flash the aorus extreme bios aswell?

Your card will most likely have the F3 bios on it. You will know if you have 125% power limit. If you have 150% power limit you have F4. I have a non-Xtreme Aorus and my opinion is (and there are many people who agree) to keep the F3 BIOS. Seems to OC better than F4.
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