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so your saying that the US court rulings can't reach companies in Germany ? pretty sure that Germany would have some sort of reciprocal court agreement with the US which means eventually blizzard will eventually get their day. Germany is part of interpol so we know they have some existing standards with regard to illegal acts.
as for the fraud point it wasn't meant as an example to split hairs
it is a clear example of an illegal act with the point that asking someone to create a document intended to be used knowingly for fraudulent purposes makes the requester as guilty as the creator. same kind of thought as paying someone to do an illegal act like murder, theft, assault etc, why would the court system treat fraud any different.

bottom line bots suck

Well, there is conspiracy to defraud
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"an agreement by two or more [persons] by dishonesty to deprive a person of something which is his or to which he is or would be or might be entitled [or] an agreement by two or more by dishonesty to injure some proprietary right of his suffices to constitute the offence'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_(criminal)#Conspiracy_to_defraud
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Guess WHO is the real winner here...

Um, Blizzard? They certainly paid less to the firm than the costs they submitted to the Court. Even if they paid $100k, they have set a precedent that they will sue these rogue organizations into oblivion. The chilling effect it will have on similar aspiring organizations is worth the $100k in legal fees.
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Not to play devil's advocate, but suppose you paid someone to play your character in a game, online or not, whether in your computer or not, doesn't matter. This isn't illegal in any way.

This would be similar to paying someone to type a document or build a presentation.

A bot really is just an automation of this process.

There is also nothing illegal in distributing (and profiting) from a scripting or automation program. It's easy to reach a sentence like this one in a corporation-friendly common law court, but elsewhere...

There is most certainly something illegal in distributing and profiting from a program that can only exist... by reverse engineering a copyrighted code that you need direct ties to.. for your product to work. Which copyright law is pretty clear about.... as opposed to a stand alone product that you create and doesn't have to connect into a program you don't have permission to modify.

It's not like this is a new thing or a video game thing. Trying to make money off a copyrighted work that you don't own... hasn't ever worked out well.
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Um, Blizzard? They certainly paid less to the firm than the costs they submitted to the Court. Even if they paid $100k, they have set a precedent that they will sue these rogue organizations into oblivion. The chilling effect it will have on similar aspiring organizations is worth the $100k in legal fees.

not to mention it also holds publicity for attracting new players to WoW.
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Guess who doesn't play WOW, and especially now with this BS... biggrin.gif:D:D:D
    
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Germans kick off that usa warmongers !
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It's not a waste of time or money. They have basically killed Honorbuddy (the bot from Bossland).
I have been using Honorbuddy since 2011. For everything from leveling up to using combat routines (bot using skills while I run around) to pvp and even running 3 bots for gold selling.
Bossland first removed lifetime licenses, then their 3 session 1 year option was changed to 3 sessions 3 months for the same price (€60). That price increase and also Blizzard banning every 2 or so months makes it not worth botting anymore.
And before someone starts to give me moral lessons about botting - I don't care. I never liked obeying the rules anyway.
I agree, I had a second account dedicated to botting while I was at work, and the gold I sold payed for my entire families accounts + all the micro transactions for the primary accounts. My girlfriend was the worst when it came to those freaking pets.
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They don't care about the settlement money, it's a rounding error for them. They do care about shutting down a group of people dedicated to ruining their product. It becomes quite worth it.
True, that's their job tongue.gif So glad I gave it up years ago, it is just absolutely horrible now.
    
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IMO it would be wise to pay up as you do NOT want creditors and the IRS involved (the latter has an uncanny ability to find anyone). If you don't pay, the next best thing will be taken: your assets.

Unless the owners of Bossland disappear with a fake identity purchased with bitcoin off the darknet and vanish, hopping from town to twon to stay low key, and keeping most of their money in bitcoin and cash. biggrin.gif
    
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Yeah, but using loopholes to do it? That's definitely not cool.

It's only called a "loophole" if you're on the losing end of it. The rest of us call it laws.
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