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Took the name from a Halo 1 video back in 2001-2002 and have used it ever since. biggrin.gif
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Exclusives (and in fact games in general) are not the only thing that MS is targeting with the Xbox. The One S showed that by being the only console to support 4k Bluray and HDR. They are also targeting HTPC and are very interested in the Xbox as a media hub for the living room. Its not all about exclusives.

It's a mediocre bluray player with a clunky interface and a noisy cooler, which spins up and down during movie playback, drive is loud too. Extra clunky without the Xbox bluray remote, because then you have to use the controller. It's a very cheap solution.

People that really buy 4K UHD Bluray's (which are very expensive and requires internet because of DRM) most often uses quality fan-less standalone players with both HDR10 and Dolby Vision, Xbox lacks DV. Physical media is dying tho. Only enthusiasts buy them. And enthusiasts don't use cheap consoles to watch their movies.

Microsoft's biggest selling point of the Xbox One S was that bluray drive. Because the hardware was mediocre at best, not worth talking about.

Most games will get upscaled on the Scorpio too. It's far from powerful enough to bring native 2160p gameplay in demanding titles with good fps at all times. They are already talking about checkerboard rendering etc. But obviously they want to hype their upcoming product.
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It's a mediocre bluray player with a clunky interface and a noisy cooler, which spins up and down during movie playback, drive is loud too. Extra clunky without the Xbox bluray remote, because then you have to use the controller. It's a very cheap solution.

People that really buy 4K UHD Bluray's (which are very expensive and requires internet because of DRM) most often uses quality fan-less standalone players with both HDR10 and Dolby Vision, Xbox lacks DV. Physical media is dying tho. Only enthusiasts buy them. And enthusiasts don't use cheap consoles to watch their movies.

Microsoft's biggest selling point of the Xbox One S was that bluray drive. Because the hardware was mediocre at best, not worth talking about.

Most games will get upscaled on the Scorpio too. It's far from powerful enough to bring native 2160p gameplay in demanding titles with good fps at all times. They are already talking about checkerboard rendering etc. But obviously they want to hype their upcoming product.


Not worth talking about, yet here you are over and over again complaining.
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Not worth talking about, yet here you are over and over again complaining.

Not complaining, simply stating facts.
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It's a mediocre bluray player with a clunky interface and a noisy cooler, which spins up and down during movie playback, drive is loud too. Extra clunky without the Xbox bluray remote, because then you have to use the controller. It's a very cheap solution.

People that really buy 4K UHD Bluray's (which are very expensive and requires internet because of DRM) most often uses quality fan-less standalone players with both HDR10 and Dolby Vision, Xbox lacks DV. Physical media is dying tho. Only enthusiasts buy them. And enthusiasts don't use cheap consoles to watch their movies.

Microsoft's biggest selling point of the Xbox One S was that bluray drive. Because the hardware was mediocre at best, not worth talking about.

Most games will get upscaled on the Scorpio too. It's far from powerful enough to bring native 2160p gameplay in demanding titles with good fps at all times. They are already talking about checkerboard rendering etc. But obviously they want to hype their upcoming product.

I wish we had checkerboard rendering in PC too. Also I do not see why a 6 Tflops GPU can't do 4K High @ 30 fps unless you are expecting 60 fps. I can already do it with 290X which is older GPU than Polaris GPU and most definitely slower and less efficient.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Exclusives (and in fact games in general) are not the only thing that MS is targeting with the Xbox. The One S showed that by being the only console to support 4k Bluray and HDR. They are also targeting HTPC and are very interested in the Xbox as a media hub for the living room. Its not all about exclusives.

Imo this is hurting them. I traded in my Xbox One and Ps4 for a Ps4 pro. Everything they release now is going to the PC so as a huge Halo fanboy I no longer need to buy their consoles. So Microsoft will still get several game sales from me but they will lose out on 50-60$ a year in Xbox Live sub fees from me. It would be interesting to see the people like me who will no longer buy the system/xbox live, if it outweighs all the new sales coming from the pc side.
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It's a mediocre bluray player with a clunky interface and a noisy cooler, which spins up and down during movie playback, drive is loud too. Extra clunky without the Xbox bluray remote, because then you have to use the controller. It's a very cheap solution.

People that really buy 4K UHD Bluray's (which are very expensive and requires internet because of DRM) most often uses quality fan-less standalone players with both HDR10 and Dolby Vision, Xbox lacks DV. Physical media is dying tho. Only enthusiasts buy them. And enthusiasts don't use cheap consoles to watch their movies.

Microsoft's biggest selling point of the Xbox One S was that bluray drive. Because the hardware was mediocre at best, not worth talking about.

Most games will get upscaled on the Scorpio too. It's far from powerful enough to bring native 2160p gameplay in demanding titles with good fps at all times. They are already talking about checkerboard rendering etc. But obviously they want to hype their upcoming product.

You clearly never used a One S. I experience none of this noise or clunkyness you speak of.
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You clearly never used a One S. I experience none of this noise or clunkyness you speak of.

Clearly because you don't have any issues it means no one else has them. rolleyes.gif A quick google search will show you multiple people having the issue and it seems like a small defect that Microsoft tells you to return it for one that is working correctly.
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Clearly because you don't have any issues it means no one else has them. rolleyes.gif A quick google search will show you multiple people having the issue and it seems like a small defect that Microsoft tells you to return it for one that is working correctly.

So a defect is the a design flaw now?

Defect means it is not working as designed. Maybe learn the difference before dipping in.... rolleyes.gif

Design flaw means everyone has the issue and it works as designed .
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So a defect is the a design flaw now?

Defect means it is not working as designed. Maybe learn the difference before dipping in.... rolleyes.gif

Design flaw means everyone has the issue and it works as designed .

My statement was mainly towards you saying yours was quiet so he can't possibly have one cause he said it was loud. The person you quoted very well might not know the fan being loud is a defect with some of the Xbox One S. Depending on your definition of loud he is right about the drive, Eurogamer noted a 3dB increase in noise from the original Xbox One to the S. They also note that the UHD makes more noise than the standard BD's. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-microsoft-xbox-one-s-review

By the way I know the difference between a defect and a design flaw. The original Xbox 360 had a design flaw, the Xbox One S loud fan is a defect.
Edit: Please though go on about how I do not know the difference between two things, and saying people have not used the system, because the one they used or has is loud and that can't be possible since yours is quiet.
Edited by Boomer1990 - 4/16/17 at 11:27am
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