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Wish I could still drop $2500 on a couple of video cards like I used to be able to back in the day but my daughter needs dental work and that kind of thing takes precedence these days. Oh well, I love her a heckuva lot more than my PC! redface.gif

I hear that brother. Braces are expensive!!!!!
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That goes without saying.

But historically, you can sometimes unlock cores by flashing the bios from a different card.

A Fury or Fury Nano can be flashed to a Fury X.

I think the last nVidia card that could be unlocked by a simple flash was GTX 465.

Historically, ATi/AMD had a much better track record in that regard.
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They should have give us 3840 cores for the 1080ti, releasing titan xp less Than one month after 1080ti is not fair play. I Still have my 1080 , i didnt want the 1080ti, but i would have Buy it with 3840 cores. Is it possible that titan Xp could be 15-20% faster on fps than original titan x Pascal ? What Do you Think ? I could be interested in that case, but 1200$ is really a lot for this card. I dont want to Wait till 2018 Q1 for Volta, i hope for a 2017 Q4 release,at least for 1180, is it possible?
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That goes without saying.

But historically, you can sometimes unlock cores by flashing the bios from a different card.

A Fury or Fury Nano can be flashed to a Fury X.

nVidia have money to spend on laser cut so no freebie for you. Meanwhile, AMD don't have money to bother with laser. They use firmware lock instead, hence the chance of free goodies..
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All this debate about nvidia releasing a card at $1200.

Get a grip, this happens because amd couldnt keep up and release a flagship every 2 years instead of 9 'month.
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All this debate about nvidia releasing a card at $1200.

Get a grip, this happens because amd couldnt keep up and release a flagship every 2 years instead of 9 'month.
Everyone regurgitates the same crap with each Titan release.
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Cant Wait for reviews!
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In all honesty, the only thing I am pissed is how they name this thing.


There are 26 letters in the English alphabets and they keep stubbornly stick to one. This is already over abuse of the "X" moniker.



Why can't they just name is TITAN P like how they did over at their Tesla/Quadro counterpart and save everyone a world of grief? It is as if they just want to troll their TITAN lineup like how they did to the Titans' owners.
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That kind of business strategy is why they're so much more in business than AMD. tongue.gif

To an extent.

Demand needs to be filled, but you also need parts that can fill it.
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Actually, the most offensive part is that they still refuse to equip this with 24GB. That's one of the selling points of the Titan, traditionally, having triple the VRAM of the 04 core (680, 980, 1080) or double the non-Titan versions of the same core (780, 780Ti, 980Ti, not the 1080Ti though). For $1200 after a previous Titan launch, I'd expect better.

Would probably require a modest PCB redesign to get another twelve GDDR5X ICs on the back of the card without sacrificing clocks. Also, almost no one in the target market for this part will make use of more than 12GiB. These are pure gaming parts.
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This is the kind of GPU I like. Full cores, full 12gb, full speed, full price. 1080 Ti is cut down way too much.

I've never really cared how much something was cut down...only how it performs and if it fits in my budget.

Sure, I'd like to have one of these, but the 1080 Ti is vastly more appealing because of it's priced ~40% less for 5-10% less performance and there is very little I'd need this Titan Xp for that the 1080 Ti would not also be sufficient in.
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I'm just spitballing here, but could nVidia know something about Vega which forced their hand??

I'm mean....if Vega is anywhere near a 1080ti @ $600 or less, nVidia would be screwed until Volta hit. Looks like nVidia is playing all their cards now before Vega drops.

Either way......if Vega is faster than a 1080 and the price is right, I'm going Vega. I will not contribute to the leather jacket collection anytime soon.

NVIDIA is taking advantage of an opening with a product they have; can't let the $1200 segment sit empty (which it essentially was with the 1080 Ti cannibalizing most of the older Titan X's market).
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Also: this is it for nVidia as far as this generation goes. They can't release a "fuller" full 102 GPU can they?

They could probably release a consumer GP100 part, if they really wanted to. Won't have more functional units, but would have vastly more DP performance and 16GiB of HBM.

That would only happen in the event of a significant delay for Volta though and only if it was needed to retake a narrowly lost performance crown.
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You really think that any sane person would spend an extra $400 or w.e the price difference is from the 1080ti to Titan Xp2?

Depends on if the extra 5-10% in performance is enough to get past some relevant threshold. A rare situation, but not unheard of.
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The issue at hand is twofold in my view. Pascal was handled badly and puts the consumer in the delicate position of being a walking wallet and nothing else. Granted consumers have choice to spend or not but in the absence of high end alternatives from AMD, people who needed cards to replace their old cards and enthusiasts who want the best and latest, pulled the trigger.


People purchased Titan cards, best performance card out there. Fast forward, the 1080TI comes out, optimised and with better performance than the king of the hill at a better price. We all applauded NVIDIA, except those who burned cash on the original Titan, for coming to their senses and offering huge performance in the 800-950 EUR bracket.
A month later after the 1080Ti, we found ourselves in a pickle. The 1080Ti for the price range is not the king of the hill and the original Titan is being slapped in the face again. So Titan owners got wrecked twice: first with the 1080ti and now with the new Pascal at the same price of the old titan. All this happened in less than 1 year!


As a consumer with the budget to buy a high end card, I do not have the confidence that my purchase is going to have its top spot for longer than half a year. When I dish out 1000 euros on a GPU, I have certain expectations. I do not want to spend that much and then have NVIDIA release a product on the same price range for 10-15% more performance. I was a 1080ti owner for a few hours and was giddy like a school girl. Just to see that my 850+ euros were spent on a product that will be replaced for the same price range in a few months?



Having said that, I will not venture in any GPU purchase until AMD releases their product. When AMD has Vega on the market and I see some reviews, I will most probably get a 1000 euro card from them, if HBM2 is as good as they claim. I am so annoyed with NVIDIA right now for milking people and not even be discreet about it that I will purchase an AMD card even if they are worse.
 
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