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90K views when ur small it huge. I think he only had like 10K back then.
There's videos before that have more that double the view count. Doesn't matter anyway. I was just making a point that plenty of people have complained about the Titan's pricing and that includes owners. Once they receive the card their tune changes. That is until the Ti/better card is out. Then the complaining starts up again. Not saying every owner complains but it's not hard to find the people that do.
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There's videos before that have more that double the view count. Doesn't matter anyway. I was just making a point that plenty of people have complained about the Titan's pricing and that includes owners. Once they receive the card their tune changes. That is until the Ti/better card is out. Then the complaining starts up again. Not saying every owner complains but it's not hard to find the people that do.

Everyone has, the difference is that after watching that video out of morals alone he should not run Titan in his PC even if its for free and they are not because he asked to get them from Nvidia.
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Everyone has, the difference is that after watching that video out of morals alone he should not run Titan in his PC even if its for free and they are not because he asked to get them from Nvidia.
Meh, I complain and I almost bought 2. Damn upgrade bug is a hell of a thing!

Anyone seen this yet? Roughly 10 percent difference vs a 1080 Ti when both at stock.

https://videocardz.com/newz/first-nvidia-titan-xp-benchmark-result-emerges
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I'm just waiting to see if this has DP enabled.
If it doesn't then it's nothing to see here. Get a Ti.
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I'm just waiting to see if this has DP enabled.
If it doesn't then it's nothing to see here. Get a Ti.

That does make me wonder. The Quadro fully enabled GP102 P6000 has all 3840 cores, but it does not have fully enabled double precision. The argument here though is that GP102 is supposed to be more like GM200 (which does not have double precision components on die,) but the only thing that does not add up is that both GP102 and GP100 have 3840 shaders, and both are supposed to have similar die sizes.

This then leads me to believe that GP100 and GP102 is essentially the same die except GP100 has an HBM memory controller, and GP102 has GDDR5/5X. Both have the same 3840 style clusters, and probably have the same double precision components (because you'd imagine Nvidia would capitalize on GP102 not needing double precision units, and using the space for more single precision.)

This then means that the GP102 should have similar double precision to GP100, except Nvidia is cheaping out and even disabling it on Quadro parts now. Now, before someone comments "but GP100 only has 3584 enabled single precision shaders and is full die," it is not, look at the whitepaper for GP100, it has 3840.

Now, this is purely speculation, but a lot of this lines up and sounds very Nvidia. I really do get an odd feeling that GP102 is GP100 double precision and all, just with the HBM memory controller replaced.
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Lets call it Titan Px for clarity, let Nvidia call it what they want. x is for extra cores. We don't have to buy into their ridiculousness.

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Oh, and another thing that BURNS me. When the Titan first came out (and the Black after it,) it actually sort of justified the price by having that double precision. Before the Titan, you had the $500 GF110 GTX 580, and then you had to hike it up thousands for a Quadro or a Tesla to get the double precision. With the Titan, you just had to spend $1,000 instead of $5,000.

Now, when GM200 came out... it was just a regular single precision scaled up die. Nothing really special at all. And it's been that way since. Titans are so pointless now - they are just X80 cards (literally,) at least the original Titan had a use to it.
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Oh, and another thing that BURNS me. When the Titan first came out (and the Black after it,) it actually sort of justified the price by having that double precision. Before the Titan, you had the $500 GF110 GTX 580, and then you had to hike it up thousands for a Quadro or a Tesla to get the double precision. With the Titan, you just had to spend $1,000 instead of $5,000.

Now, when GM200 came out... it was just a regular single precision scaled up die. Nothing really special at all. And it's been that way since. Titans are so pointless now - they are just X80 cards (literally,) at least the original Titan had a use to it.

also there was 1 year between the OG titan & titan black.. so it wasn't so bad tongue.gif
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also there was 1 year between the OG titan & titan black.. so it wasn't so bad tongue.gif

Wasn't talking about the release dates, I'm referring to the features. Both of those cards had something special, these new Titans don't... it's just so cheesy. And yes, I'm much more of an Nvidia person than an AMD/ATi person.
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You know what is better than 3840 CUDA cores? 4096 NCUs.
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