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Wonder how many on OCN got their Xp in time to use it over the weekend. Nvidia doesn't deliver on Sat or Sun afaik.
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Wow look what I bought today for $1200! Im so glad I didnt spend the $1200 on this silly nvidia card! woop woop!

Now THAT'S a "better" buy! Congrats on the nice ride. thumb.gif
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Once you buy a GPU, it's obsolete.

ofc i knew this when i get each GPU upgrade and try to aim for 80-100% improvement over previous GPU.

True, that's why you should usually just go with leftover versions of the previous "fastest" card for cheap when shopping, if value for money is important. Cards like this are for those who have money to burn. The 1080Ti remains the most logical choice by far as its a little more than half the price and 90% or more of the performance. Then again, for my purposes a $380 GTX 1070 would probably more than suffice since I game on 1440p 60Hz monitors. But then again, my two Titans already do that just fine so that's why I haven't upgraded since 2013. redface.gif
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Honestly kinda surprised they released a full Titan after this long, but hey if you can sell it why not.

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Wow look what I bought today for $1200! Im so glad I didnt spend the $1200 on this silly nvidia card! woop woop!


I can buy a rifle for cheaper than your bike, and it'll last much longer in the real world. Do I win?
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First let's just address the very obvious point about Titans not being good price/perf. Like... duh? I think literally every person in this entire thread knows that. Great. Does that nullify any of my points? No. It's not relevant. In fact I am insulted that somebody would bring up such an elementary point to the discussion as if everything I say comes crashing down once the simple truth is revealed to me.


If one is going to say that it's bad price/perf therefore bad buy then that's a problem. That is saying that anybody who gets Titan was making a poor decision. That's ignoring the fact that for some people the extra performance for a limited time (as with almost all tech, TOTL is temporary) is worth more than the extra price to get it. And that in turn depends on various factors... frugality, current financial situation, outlooks on the future, etc.


All of these things should be dead obvious to anyone. So why the heck are we talking about this? We shouldn't.


Then there's the 1 sentence response without any context as to which point he was directly discussing. I responded to many people, and to him, multiple times for different posts and points. A single tag and saying 'bad buy, never saw a reviewer say it's a good buy' is dumb. As if the true arbiter of what is or isn't a good buy is from a reviewer. I am sure there are reviewers who think Titans are bad price perf, but worth it to some people. In other words, both of his sentences fail.

 
If somebody makes a short statement like that with no context I've got no room for a charitable interpretation.

I think what they are trying to point out is that you can calculate the price in dollar per FPS which would be the most FAIR imo.

The dollar per fps for the 1080ti and the Titan X (old Pascal) didn't make sense at those price ranges.
IMO the Titan Xp (new one) is better "value" than their old bridging the gap between 1080ti value vs titan X's value.

However, Nvidia has really cornered the individuals whom need more VRAM/running at high detailed 1440p / 4k setups. No matter how much raw power you have once you hit RAM limit, nothing goes well.

If you think consumer side is bad look at the tesla/quadro side of things.

All you pay for at the top end quadro level is a titan Xp with 24gb of VRAM.
They are literally charging content producers 3-4k for an extra 12gb of video ram.
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Honestly kinda surprised they released a full Titan after this long, but hey if you can sell it why not.
I can buy a rifle for cheaper than your bike, and it'll last much longer in the real world. Do I win?

Tip, you can buy a rifle, find a guy on a bike, shoot him off of it and you get a rifle + free bikes.
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I can buy a rifle for cheaper than your bike, and it'll last much longer in the real world. Do I win?

Let me put it this way.

Someone could kill you with a motorcycle, but you cannot ride your rifle. wink.gif
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Let me put it this way.

Someone could kill you with a motorcycle, but you cannot ride your rifle. wink.gif
I've heard people like to ride some crazy things. wink.gif
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Not calling out that it's very likely not just 3-5% increase of Xp over 1080ti is dishonest. Nvidia doesn't need to, shouldn't be expected to, and won't improve their business practices. The only cure is for AMD to knock Nvidia out.

It's meant to be dry humor, as in you can't put a price tag on epeen or having the absolute best, hence even a $1000 increase in price would be "worth it" if that's what you're gunning after. A 70% increase in price for even a 10% increase in performance is still terrible value. The other stuff you mentioned I think you're reading into my post a bit too much. If anything, I'm poking fun at the "epeen buyers".
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In a way that's the entire hardware industry, especially back in the old days. You can keep waiting forever and not get anything every.

This applies to pretty much any industry given it's human nature we're talking about. Hell that's why the gaming industry is the way it is these days, because people never learn, and keep doing the same damn thing (MUST PRE-ORDER NAO!!!!1111) over and over again.
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Wow look what I bought today for $1200! Im so glad I didnt spend the $1200 on this silly nvidia card! woop woop!


Nice lol.
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While I understand where you're coming from, I respectfully disagree. From even an economic standpoint, the Titan Xp does not make sense. It's the same GP102 chip as the both the Titan X Pascal and the 1080 Ti, it just has a few more cores enabled.

Most people would equate "good buy" with a value proposition. That's how the term is used. "Great card" is a given; the Titan Xp is the fastest consumer GPU on the market at this time. Period. No one is arguing that. However, what we are seeing is, again, a slap in the face from Nvidia. You've got a bunch of owners of the Titan X Pascal who knew they were buying a $1200 card that, at the time, was much faster than the GTX 1080. This is fine. In fact, I would even argue that the price premium over the 1080 wasn't that terrible at the time considering the performance increase.

Now, however, you've got a $700 1080 Ti, which is slightly faster than the old Titan X Pascal. This is fine, as it brings Titan X Pascal performance down to a more affordable price point. Good move Nvidia... except about a month later, Nvidia has now introduced a new Titan Xp, which is faster by 5-10%, but costs almost twice the price of the 1080 Ti. So, not only has Nvidia suddenly made the original Titan X Pascal the 3rd fastest card, but they have now released a product which makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE in their current lineup based on economic principals; the Titan Xp is a halo card for the sake of being a halo card. Nvidia is basically waiving the card in the face of all the people that bought the Titan X Pascal and saying "HEY GUISE!!! WE GOT SOMETHING FASTER!!! COME BUY IT YOU MONEY BAGS!!!"

It just doesn't make sense, from both a consumer and a business standpoint.




I will say this... if Nvidia had priced the Titan Xp @ $1000, I don't think so many people would be angry about it.

If the new Titan was $1000, I would grab one, and two if SLI support looked more promising.
    
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