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Are you guys getting 2000 on air? Thats pretty crazy!

It seems that both AIB's and FE's are both capable of hitting 1975-2050 on Air for the 1080ti. Difference is the FE will start throttling quicker do to rising temps because of the blower style cooling. The Titan Xp has higher temps it can handle being binned by about 5 degrees which allows the card to maintain 2000-2050 range without throttling issues on Air giving it an advantage over even the AIB counterparts. Although 75% fan speeds are needed which can get a little noisy. I'm personally putting my TXp on water. Maintaining stable clocks around 2100 with no throttling with temps under 52 seems very doable so far on everyone who has tried. This also seems to be the case with 1080Ti's.

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I would say a custom 1080 Ti is ALMOST as fast as an Xp (unless WC) in games.

Even with the +125-139 OC the AIB's 1080Ti's are getting they will still fall 3-5% short of a stock clocked TitanXp. As I mentioned above we're getting reference cooled Xp's at around 2050mhz because of there increased temp threshold. That will make that gap even bigger without putting the Xp under water. At the end of the day both AIB's 1080Ti's and Xp's on Air can both reach 2000-2050 without much if any throttling. The same can be said when they are both under water (2100-2150) range. Clock them the same and the Xp will still have its 10%+ advantage.
Edited by rcfc89 - 4/9/17 at 2:41pm
 
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Even with the +125-139 OC the AIB's 1080Ti's are getting they will still fall 3-5% short of a stock clocked TitanXp. As I mentioned above we're getting reference cooled Xp's at around 2050mhz because of there increased temp threshold. That will make that gap even bigger without putting the Xp under water. At the end of the day both AIB's 1080Ti's and Xp's on Air can both reach 2000-2050 without much if any throttling. The same can be said when they are both under water (2100-2150) range. Clock them the same and the Xp will still have its 10%+ advantage.

That reminds me of all Ryzen threads before its benches.

So I will say this- all of these are pure speculations and have no credibility.

So far I see that some people who ordered Titan Xp are pulling out off no where some magic numbers how TITAN Xp will be 10%+ faster in games thatn AIB 1080Ti. And some others pulling out off nowhere numbers and argument that 1080Ti AIBs will be as fast as TITAN Xp (or very close to) in games.

People saying Xp will OC that, will achieve that, will have that, temps will be that. BS. Nobody tested it yet, so all of it is just a fantasy now. Benches= legit.

Since there are no gaming bechmarks yet Xp vs Ti AIBs all those are just speculations.

I will never get people ordering something without benches out first. But whatever.

Really, week or two is not that long to hold your horses and see benches lol. Little patient.
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It seems that both AIB's and FE's are both capable of hitting 1975-2050 on Air for the 1080ti. Difference is the FE will start throttling quicker do to rising temps because of the blower style cooling. The Titan Xp has higher temps it can handle being binned by about 5 degrees which allows the card to maintain 2000-2050 range without throttling issues on Air giving it an advantage over even the AIB counterparts. Although 75% fan speeds are needed which can get a little noisy. I'm personally putting my TXp on water. Maintaining stable clocks around 2100 with no throttling with temps under 52 seems very doable so far on everyone who has tried. This also seems to be the case with 1080Ti's.
Even with the +125-139 OC the AIB's 1080Ti's are getting they will still fall 3-5% short of a stock clocked TitanXp. As I mentioned above we're getting reference cooled Xp's at around 2050mhz because of there increased temp threshold. That will make that gap even bigger without putting the Xp under water. At the end of the day both AIB's 1080Ti's and Xp's on Air can both reach 2000-2050 without much if any throttling. The same can be said when they are both under water (2100-2150) range. Clock them the same and the Xp will still have its 10%+ advantage.
Well I'm basing my post off of the video below with actual Xp benchmarks. 13399 Xp graphics score vs Ti's 12958 in Firestrike Extreme. Both at stock. Seems pretty damn close to me.

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Well I'm basing my post off of the video below with actual Xp benchmarks. 13399 Xp graphics score vs Ti's 12958 in Firestrike Extreme. Both at stock. Seems pretty damn close to me.



This tells you all you need to know.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-titan-xp-is-faster-as-custom-gtx-1080-ti.html

2'227 gap. Try harder............
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This tells you all you need to know.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-titan-xp-is-faster-as-custom-gtx-1080-ti.html

2'227 gap. Try harder............
From Guru3D, http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-review,29.html


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People saying Xp will OC that, will achieve that, will have that, temps will be that. BS. Nobody tested it yet, so all of it is just a fantasy now. Benches= legit.

You do realize that there are OCN members running these cards for a couple of days, right?
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You do realize that there are OCN members running these cards for a couple of days, right?

Ok then, where are benches. temps. OC results, gaming performance etc? Still none.

I don't know how good Xp is, because there is not enough data about it. Where is data?
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This tells you all you need to know.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-titan-xp-is-faster-as-custom-gtx-1080-ti.html

2'227 gap. Try harder............

From OcGuru itself:

"Update: I also added an overclocked result of the Aorus GTX 1080 Ti we tweaked to it's maximum stable 2038~2050 MHz. That Tweaked Aorus scores 31.3K on the GPU score, so does the Titan Xp at tweaked, at 31.9K, so tweaked the cards seem very close to each other"

Besides- games behave little different than pure benches....
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Ok then, where are benches. temps. OC results, gaming performance etc? Still none.

I don't know how good Xp is, because there is not enough data about it. Where is data?
From OcGuru itself:

"Update: I also added an overclocked result of the Aorus GTX 1080 Ti we tweaked to it's maximum stable 2038~2050 MHz. That Tweaked Aorus scores 31.3K on the GPU score, so does the Titan Xp at tweaked, at 31.9K, so tweaked the cards seem very close to each other"

Besides- games behave little different than pure benches....

The 31.9 was from a slightly tweeked Xp vs a maxed out AIB 1080ti. Match the clocks and the gap goes back to around 10%. And since the Xp has a higher temp limit it actually does well at 2050 range without throttling like the 1080Ti would at even 1975-2000.

Hopefully we get reviews early this week. I don't get my card until middle of next week. I have 30 days to return it.
 
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The 31.9 was from a slightly tweeked Xp vs a maxed out AIB 1080ti. Match the clocks and the gap goes back to around 10%. And since the Xp has a higher temp limit it actually does well at 2050 range without throttling like the 1080Ti would at even 1975-2000.

Hopefully we get reviews early this week. I don't get my card until middle of next week. I have 30 days to return it.
Both cards are close to each other in performance. I'm glad that you're keeping Nvidia's return policy in mind. wink.gif
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All I can really say is this is pretty stupid of NVIDIA to do as it will anger people who just paid a fortune on their original Titan X (Pascal) version. I'd much rather NVIDIA focused on lowering their pricing and working on their software and UI issues like having to sign up to their proprietary UI software just to get their drives.
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