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So you have bought 2 Titan XP, 2 1080ti, and 2 Titan Xp in the past year? That's straight up ballin.

To be fair I have now sold the first 4. But yes.
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I refuse to believe that that lap time is legit.

#FAKENEWS..

They would have had to fake both the 6:52 for Huracan and 6:59 for the Aventador.

And those cars are only Tegra powered. Imagine if they had an Xp!
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I laugh when I see people say paying $500 for 7-10% more performance is a waste. Especially when those talking have PCs with custom water loops. The cost of building a quality water loop can easily surpass $500 and for what? An extra couple FPS or a few more points in fire strike...... Sound familiar?

We are enthusiasts on this site, we all have the sickness from buying Titans to installing enough radiators in our PCs to cool a car. When even pay hundreds of dollars for thin metal boxes to put all of our hardware in, when we could just simply bolt it to a block of wood. You may look at Titan owners as "e-peen" chasers, but keep in mind what most of the population would think if you told them that sweet tempered glass "box" for your "computer" was $200+. They would call you crazy too.

I don't have a Titan but I do enjoy my 3 way SLi systems.

My .02
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Plenty of Titan owners have complained. Myself included as well as the guy in the video below who gets them for free....
https://youtu.be/EYlMrxIgoME

Nine months at the top wasn't at all bad and it should have been obvious that as a less than fully enabled part there was the possibility for a more complete product later. Two faster parts coming out later don't erase what you've already done with your Titan X (first Pascal).

Only real part of JayzTwoCents' video I really agree with is the consumer confusion rant. The Titan Xp is poorly named and poorly differentiated from past products.

He makes another valid point: that Nvidia claims that the current Titans are deep learning cards and thus not GeForce GTX cards. Then they go and disprove themselves with the 1080 Ti.

I think that this whole commotion could have been averted if they had released the 1080 Ti and the Titan Xp at the same time. Imagine what someone would feel buying the first Pascal Titan X after seeing that the 1080 Ti wasn't really any better and that the top potential performance would always be higher (+1 GB of VRAM) on the Titan X and then one month later Nvidia releases the Xp unannounced.

This really does seem like either a rookie mistake on Nvidia's part or they have since gotten to know how Vega performs.
 
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wouldn't 10GB/320bit @11ghz =440 be sufficient way to lower the perf vs the Titan Xp?

GP100 = 620 ( 3584@1430mhz 720gb/s )
P6000 = 600 ( 3840@1531mhz 432gb/s )

3840/3584 = 1.0714x
1430mhz vs 1531 = 1.07x
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I think that this whole commotion could have been averted if they had released the 1080 Ti and the Titan Xp at the same time.
This really does seem like either a rookie mistake on Nvidia's part or they have since gotten to know how Vega performs.

I agree with this.

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I laugh when I see people say paying $500 for 7-10% more performance is a waste. Especially when those talking have PCs with custom water loops. The cost of building a quality water loop can easily surpass $500 and for what? An extra couple FPS or a few more points in fire strike...... Sound familiar?

We are enthusiasts on this site, we all have the sickness from buying Titans to installing enough radiators in our PCs to cool a car. When even pay hundreds of dollars for thin metal boxes to put all of our hardware in, when we could just simply bolt it to a block of wood. You may look at Titan owners as "e-peen" chasers, but keep in mind what most of the population would think if you told them that sweet tempered glass "box" for your "computer" was $200+. They would call you crazy too.

I don't have a Titan but I do enjoy my 3 way SLi systems.

My .02

I agree with your general sentiment. However, a custom loop does not go obsolete nearly at the rate of a high end GPU. There is some difference there.

   
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He makes another valid point: that Nvidia claims that the current Titans are deep learning cards and thus not GeForce GTX cards.

Where do they say this?

NVIDIA has mentioned the Titan X (pascal), and now the Titan Xp prominently, in their deep learning material...because they were the fastest consumer FP16 parts they had at the time of their releases. They still listed it as a GeForce GTX and not a Quadro, or a Tesla, or whatever.
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I agree with your general sentiment. However, a custom loop does not go obsolete nearly at the rate of a high end GPU. There is some difference there.

I agree with this. The problem though with these discussions is that things seem to be fairly subjective - different sources of value for different persons so it makes it very difficult for us to talk about the same thing when it comes to value as such.

I'm the kind of person that buys two flagship video cards when I build a PC then I don't upgrade for quite some time. That's because my personal time is very valuable to me. So when I build my new watercooled PC later this year or sometime next year part of the delay will be for the release of the Titan Volta to put two under water and not touch them for quite some time. Then when the Volta Ti is released the increase over the titan, let's say a 10% increase if it happens, is not worth me changing waterblocks/cards/hassle, see what I mean? On the money, I'm fairly neutral. That's not really what it's about for me.

I like this forum because it is filled with enthusiasts but in some threads I see discussions about "value TO ME" masquerading as "value for anyone".

So the Titan Xp is 10% faster than a Titan Ti for around 70% more money? Fine. That 10% may not be worth it to some people but it will clearly be worth it to others and I don't really get the point of trying to convince people that chase this kind of premium product that they would be better suited by buying Tis instead.

Just my two cents here.
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Where do they say this?

NVIDIA has mentioned the Titan X (pascal), and now the Titan Xp prominently, in their deep learning material...because they were the fastest consumer FP16 parts they had at the time of their releases. They still listed it as a GeForce GTX and not a Quadro, or a Tesla, or whatever.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10510/nvidia-announces-nvidia-titan-x-video-card-1200-available-august-2nd

"That NVIDIA has removed this card from the GeForce family would seem to further cement its place as a prosumer card. On the compute front the company is separately advertising the card's 44 TOPs INT8 compute performance - INT8 being frequently used for neural network inference - which is something they haven't done before for GeForce or Titan cards. Though make no mistake: the company’s GeForce division is marketing the card and it’s listed on GeForce.com, so it is still very much a gaming card as well.
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That's an interesting and contradictory statement for this NVIDIA representative to make. Though I'm still not sure who would be confused by it, or who goes to the footnotes of an Anandtech news article for second hand marketing information rather than just looking at http://www.geforce.com/hardware .

Regardless, the price and hardware capabilities for the card speak for themselves and the marketing pretenses can be ignored.
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