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That's an interesting and contradictory statement for this NVIDIA representative to make. Though I'm still not sure who would be confused by it, or who goes to the footnotes of an Anandtech news article for second hand marketing information rather than just looking at http://www.geforce.com/hardware .

Regardless, the price and hardware capabilities for the card speak for themselves and the marketing pretenses can be ignored.
Nvidia CEO also marketed the Titan XP for Prosumers and didn't mention gamers during the live unveiling.
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I see that never ending Titan hate train is back on rails lol
The way i see it all comes down to personal circumstances/preference, if someone can afford Titan card and is happy to pay the price it's the right card for him, whether his wasting the money or not.
Personally I could buy Titan Xp right now but I just bought 1080Ti, it boosts to 2100 and I'm really happy with it.
Even if I'd be looking for a new card I don't think I'd pay £500 more for roughly 10% performance increase (if that) because I can do many other things with that money.
From what I see Titan cards are purchased by 3 kinds of people, first people who have money and simply don't care, than people who can afford it want the bragging right and are going into this with open eyes, and last group is not very bright people who use all their precious savings to buy new OMYGAWD !!! Titan card and than cry on Nvidia forums about Nvidia screwing them over which I must admit is rather amusing.
I almost bought OG Titan XP back in august but opted for 1080SLI and from perspective of time I should have gone with Titan it would save me the hassle of selling 1080's and all the rest.
So my advice would be if you want a Titan go and buy one but be aware that new and this time 'fully unlocked' Titan will be around the corner biggrin.gif
Edited by RobotDevil666 - 4/11/17 at 3:32am
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It could be worse, Nvidia could always create a GPU socket and sell GPU's like Intel does their socketed CPU's... We'd be in trouble with 3 months upgrade cycles.

 

I still don't understand where this Titan Px = x for Xtra cores came from unless its just simply extra stock and some genius said, "Hey lets enable the extra cores, and sell it a new Fastest Single Card", TI users wont be too pissed?" :D:sozo:

 

No more Titan class of cards for me. (Titan Maxwell SLI OC on Water). Served me well in the past but Nvidia has poisoned the Titan line.

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It could be worse, Nvidia could always create a GPU socket and sell GPU's like Intel does their socketed CPU's... We'd be in trouble with 3 months upgrade cycles.

I still don't understand where this Titan Px = x for Xtra cores came from unless its just simply extra stock and some genius said, "Hey lets enable the extra cores, and sell it a new Fastest Single Card", TI users wont be too pissed?" biggrin.gifsozo.gif

No more Titan class of cards for me. (Titan Maxwell SLI OC on Water). Served me well in the past but Nvidia has poisoned the Titan line.

I purchased the very first Titan card Nvidia released and that was enough poison for me. wink.gif
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It could be worse, Nvidia could always create a GPU socket and sell GPU's like Intel does their socketed CPU's... We'd be in trouble with 3 months upgrade cycles.

I still don't understand where this Titan Px = x for Xtra cores came from unless its just simply extra stock and some genius said, "Hey lets enable the extra cores, and sell it a new Fastest Single Card", TI users wont be too pissed?" biggrin.gifsozo.gif

No more Titan class of cards for me. (Titan Maxwell SLI OC on Water). Served me well in the past but Nvidia has poisoned the Titan line.

Except it's called Titan Xp and not Titan Px...
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Originally Posted by Ghoxt View Post

It could be worse, Nvidia could always create a GPU socket and sell GPU's like Intel does their socketed CPU's... We'd be in trouble with 3 months upgrade cycles.

I still don't understand where this Titan Px = x for Xtra cores came from unless its just simply extra stock and some genius said, "Hey lets enable the extra cores, and sell it a new Fastest Single Card", TI users wont be too pissed?" biggrin.gifsozo.gif

No more Titan class of cards for me. (Titan Maxwell SLI OC on Water). Served me well in the past but Nvidia has poisoned the Titan line.

How would that be different from just releasing a card?
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I purchased the very first Titan card Nvidia released and that was enough poison for me. wink.gif

It was so great back then. At least it had fast Double Precision, Double the vRAM and "only" $1000. Now Titan Xp is more expensive, no DP and same vRAM amount. Real a Titan Xp is what GTX 780 Ti was. The real Titan should have been 24GB.
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That's an interesting and contradictory statement for this NVIDIA representative to make. Though I'm still not sure who would be confused by it, or who goes to the footnotes of an Anandtech news article for second hand marketing information rather than just looking at http://www.geforce.com/hardware .

Regardless, the price and hardware capabilities for the card speak for themselves and the marketing pretenses can be ignored.

The whole thing is contradictory, that's the point. Jay said that he was given the deep learning excuse for not being given two Titan X's in the beginning, when in reality it was Nvidia's fastest gaming card by quite a margin (see 4:41 in the video below), and now they gave him the same excuse again for the Titan Xp. When we go to the link you posted (or this one) the card is in the GeForce GTX category, but isn't called a GeForce GTX, rather it's a Nvidia branding exercise - with the mandatory reference cooler to match - for their tour de force desktop cards.



The specific placing I think has more to do with discoverability than anything else; they don't want people to miss that card in the listings and simply putting it at the top of the GTX line-up without creating a new category is probably the simplest thing to do. It kind of proves the point that their PR is shaky at best and that the substance of the thing is what it is. They could create a separate category with one or two cards in it for each generation, but that could be confusing for some (they could avoid it by carefully always placing the Titan series above the GTX series, but I can see some listings where it could go wrong and the cards not appear).

Anyway, I agree with your last remark, and that's exactly also what Jay was alluding to in the video.
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The whole thing is contradictory, that's the point. Jay said that he was given the deep learning excuse for not being given two Titan X's in the beginning, when in reality it was Nvidia's fastest gaming card by quite a margin (see 4:41 in the video below), and now they gave him the same excuse again for the Titan Xp. When we go to the link you posted (or this one) the card is in the GeForce GTX category, but isn't called a GeForce GTX, rather it's a Nvidia branding exercise - with the mandatory reference cooler to match - for their tour de force desktop cards.



The specific placing I think has more to do with discoverability than anything else; they don't want people to miss that card in the listings and simply putting it at the top of the GTX line-up without creating a new category is probably the simplest thing to do. It kind of proves the point that their PR is shaky at best and that the substance of the thing is what it is. They could create a separate category with one or two cards in it for each generation, but that could be confusing for some (they could avoid it by carefully always placing the Titan series above the GTX series, but I can see some listings where it could go wrong and the cards not appear).

Anyway, I agree with your last remark, and that's exactly also what Jay was alluding to in the video.

^Homeboy's just mad he didn't get any free from Nvidia. In fact with still no reviews it doesn't look like any reviewers got any for free.
 
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^Homeboy's just mad he didn't get any free from Nvidia. In fact with still no reviews it doesn't look like any reviewers got any for free.

Well, it's in Nvidia's interest too. Those cards would be going into Terry Crews' build, which is supposed to be the best of the best. Jay's channel has also recently surpassed 1 million subscribers, so this is a commercial relationship that goes both ways. He does have a point that Nvidia's deep learning excuse makes no sense.

And the fact Nvidia released this card unannounced, without anybody being told beforehand or sampled, is kind of awkward. Maybe they now know something about Vega that we don't. I mean, they could have released the card in tandem with the 1080 Ti and avoided all this or they could have waited a few more months and also avoid much of the problem.
 
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