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hello guys currently i'm debating if i should upgrade my sig rig or leave it as it is, my target is 4k 60 maxed out for the next 2 years or so, i figured the oldest part of my system now is the platform itself so i was wondering if i should upgrade to another faster quad core like the 7700k or wait until skylake-e for example and go the HEDT route since new games are starting to use over 4 cores?
i might be upgrading the gpus to 1080tis in the future but i certainly don't want to go for such an upgrade on the same z77 platform

what do you think ? would you upgrade from ivy to kaby if you are targeting 4k 60 maxed ?!
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A 7700K will absolutely blow that 3770K out of the water but you got to factor in the cost of RAM and a new motherboard. If that's worth it to you then absolutely. With that said 4K is almost always GPU bottlenecked very rarely is it CPU bottlenecked. If i were you i would run MSI afterburner and check the GPU load if its below 99% for any significant amount of time and the cost of the upgrade is worth getting a few extra frames (depending on how badly bottlenecked you are) then go for it.
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A 7700K will absolutely blow that 3770K out of the water but you got to factor in the cost of RAM and a new motherboard. If that's worth it to you then absolutely. With that said 4K is almost always GPU bottlenecked very rarely is it CPU bottlenecked. If i were you i would run MSI afterburner and check the GPU load if its below 99% for any significant amount of time and the cost of the upgrade is worth getting a few extra frames (depending on how badly bottlenecked you are) then go for it.

how much faster is the 7700k compared to the 3770k at the same clocks ? i know that the 7700k will probably do 5ghz though but still would like to know the clock for clock speed advantage % i heard it's only about 20%
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how much faster is the 7700k compared to the 3770k at the same clocks ? i know that the 7700k will probably do 5ghz though but still would like to know the clock for clock speed advantage % i heard it's only about 20%

I would say about 20% give or take depending on the game and application.
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I would say about 20% give or take depending on the game and application.

then a clock speed advantage of around 10%

so all in all a 7700k could end up 30% faster depending on the application or game, right ?
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post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by invincible20xx View Post

then a clock speed advantage of around 10%

so all in all a 7700k could end up 30% faster depending on the application or game, right ?

Yeah that sounds about right. like i said a massive upgrade for most games.
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Personally I wouldn't. Go x99 or Ryzen 7.
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Watch the video comparison. Hope it helps your decision thumb.gif



Here's the link to the article... http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-review
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Watch the video comparison. Hope it helps your decision thumb.gif



Here's the link to the article... http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-review

well so if i'm not targeting minimum frame rates higher than 60 fps i shouldn't bother ?
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post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by invincible20xx View Post

well so if i'm not targeting minimum frame rates higher than 60 fps i shouldn't bother ?

The question is... What does moving from a quad to a quad offers you?

Do you need the new instructions?
That is all it will offer you really
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