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LM I don't have any on hand. I will try shaking the conductive pen& reapplying like Rod is suggesting. If it still doesn't work, then I'll order some LM. Sucks, I was looking for a soln that I could just apply & leave it on there, but seems like this Conductive pen is gonna be a let down. redface.gif

If you leave LM on there, the shunts WILL fall off, Marc wasn't the only one that suffered from that.

Hwbot Heaven was okay.I didn't do any LOD so that it doesn't become 100% CPU. Utilization was usually in the early 80%, with dips to 70% or jumps to 90%+ (where it hit the PL & downclocked). I tried 5.6 CPU, but kept crashing half way. AIO couldn't keep the CPU under 60C & it crashed above. sad-smiley-002.gif
I will try shaking the pen. I did apply like 3 heavy coats, so far no game. redface.gif
tried the silver pen late last night.... zero effect on the PL. lol, it is conductive. also cleaned the contacs before application. No change in resistance. Good news is it comes right off with acetone and a q-tip...
I really can't use LMs since my cards are mounted vertically... and I've tried on other cards - as soon as things warm up, the LM becomes more flowable. (CLU and CLP never actually dry. Does grizzly conduc actually dry?)

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4K @ 144hz is the dream for me...but the monitor size is gonna have to be 32" or larger, 27" or smaller is too small for me. Once we get 4K @ 144hz, if 2x Xps can't drive it over 100hz in the most demanding games at the highest settings...then it would be time to upgrade to the Volta version of the Titan...but if the Xps do end up being enough... then I may skip a generation for once. biggrin.gif
THanks man! +1
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Can you guys post some screenshots of your best benchmark results for Superposition/TimeSpy/FireStrike/Heaven, etc?

Would like to compile these for the OP under the Benchmarks section without having to comb through the thread or finding out you guys have since gotten better scores, etc...cheers. thumb.gif
just use the OCN bench threads, otherwise you'll get all sorts of tweaks and crap making any comparisons suspect.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1518806/firestrike-ultra-top-30/0_20
http://www.overclock.net/t/1443196/firestrike-extreme-top-30
http://www.overclock.net/t/1464813/3d-mark-11-extreme-top-30
http://www.overclock.net/t/872945/top-30-3d-mark-13-fire-strike-scores-in-crossfire-sli
http://www.overclock.net/t/1235557/official-top-30-heaven-benchmark-4-0-scores
http://www.overclock.net/t/1360884/official-top-30-unigine-valley-benchmark-1-0
http://www.overclock.net/t/1361939/top-30-3dmark11-scores-for-single-dual-tri-quad
http://www.overclock.net/t/1406832/single-gpu-firestrike-top-30
http://www.overclock.net/t/1606006/3dmark-time-spy-benchmark-top-30/0_20
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I did the shunt mod last night with CLU, just use a thin layer and the stuff won't move because of the surface tension. Don't gob it on like a rain drop, and keep it off the solder of the shunt. The thin layer was enough to lower the resistance enough to keep zero throttling, just have to worry about the temperature drop bins now.

If my cards were mounted vertical, I'd still be confident to do it now.
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tried the silver pen late last night.... zero effect on the PL. lol, it is conductive. also cleaned the contacs before application. No change in resistance. Good news is it comes right off with acetone and a q-tip...
I really can't use LMs since my cards are mounted vertically... and I've tried on other cards - as soon as things warm up, the LM becomes more flowable. (CLU and CLP never actually dry. Does grizzly conduc actually dry?)

Well, that's it, returning the conductive pen then. Sucks that it failed.

Not sure if conductonaut drys or not, but you can cover the shunt & conductonaut with eraser if you are worried about it dripping. Tbh, I'm more concerned about it eating the solder than dripping.
Will be ordering some conductonaut later today.
Edited by rt123 - 4/17/17 at 5:44am
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I did the shunt mod last night with CLU, just use a thin layer and the stuff won't move because of the surface tension. Don't gob it on like a rain drop, and keep it off the solder of the shunt. The thin layer was enough to lower the resistance enough to keep zero throttling, just have to worry about the temperature drop bins now.

If my cards were mounted vertical, I'd still be confident to do it now.
good to know.. but how did you keep it off the solder yet still make electrical contact?
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Well, that's it, returning the conductive pen then. Sucks that it failed.

Not sure if conductonaut drys or not, but you can cover the shunt & conductonaut with eraser if you are worried about it dripping. Tbh, I'm more concerned about it eating the solder than dripping.
Will be ordering some conductonaut later today.
yeah, I masked the 5MOs with tape. one coat shown. I went up to like 5 dried coats. Cleanup is easy with acetone (not nail polish remover which has oils and other ingredients, but it should still work.)




won;t be trying again soon.. every thing I got is folding until Wednesday afternoon. smile.gif
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The shunt has two metal ends, the solder part is on the bottom side of the shunt. That's how it looks to me.
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good to know.. but how did you keep it off the solder yet still make electrical contact?

I was wondering this too. tongue.gif
Was questioning my electrical knowledge for a while. headscratch.gif
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yeah, I masked the 5MOs with tape. one coat shown. I went up to like 5 dried coats. Cleanup is easy with acetone (not nail polish remover which has oils and other ingredients, but it should still work.)
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won;t be trying again.. every thing I got is folding until Wednesday afternoon. smile.gif

I can't stand the smell of nail polish remover anyway. Puke. sicksmiley.png

I think between you, me & Jbravo33 we can conclude that conductive pen failed. I think I saw maybe a 5% TDP reduction but it was probably due to the lower temps.

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The shunt has two metal ends, the solder part is on the bottom side of the shunt. That's how it looks to me.

I could be wrong, but i think those metal ends also have solder on them & that's where the corrosion starts from. Then moves downwards. headscratch.gif
Edited by rt123 - 4/17/17 at 5:58am
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resistance=19.77(length/width) +12

That is the calculation for "bare conductive" paint pen (not this silver one). So the correlation of the length-to-width ratio is what counts in having a low resistance. Obviously because the Titan's resistor is longer between the two contacts than it is wide, the resistance of the silver pen goes up.

Taken from spec sheet:

"Electric Paint presents a wholly unique way of exploring electrical resistance. In general, the resistance
of a sample of conductive material is defined by the dimensions of the sample being tested,
and resistance is inversely proportional to cross sectional area (i.e. given a set length and depth,
a wider sample will have less resistance than a thin one). Thus, the resistance can be defined by the ratio of length/width."

Do what you will with the above, I just found it interesting.
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The shunt has two metal ends, the solder part is on the bottom side of the shunt. That's how it looks to me.
I'm pretty sure the end cap silver bars at the ends of the 5MOs are lead/tin or solder... not flowed, but part of the component before install But yeah... I don't think marc's "event" was from bottom side application of CLU - was it?

lol .. maybe the bottom side is where the silver pen might work. thinking.gif
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I'm pretty sure the end cap silver bars at the ends of the 5MOs are lead/tin or solder... not flowed, but part of the component before install But yeah... I don't think marc's "event" was from bottom side application of CLU - was it?

IDK, was that 2300MHz ln2 card? Could have something to do with it, idk. Many people did the shunt mod and it's been good. I just put a small layer, not gooped on. Hoping that's good where the shunt won't fall off, because the throttling is pretty ridiculous without the mod.
Edited by MrTOOSHORT - 4/17/17 at 6:17am
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I'm pretty sure the end cap silver bars at the ends of the 5MOs are lead/tin or solder... not flowed, but part of the component before install But yeah... I don't think marc's "event" was from bottom side application of CLU - was it?

lol .. maybe the bottom side is where the silver pen might work. thinking.gif

Nah, he applied CLU on top. Apparently Dancop had a similar "event" with Conductonaut.

Not sure if creating a "path" on the bottom would be advisable. Even if its done with a conductive pen headscratch.gif
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