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I just mounted the water block and backplate on mine, now I remember why I wanted a nice simple air cooled rig. But no....

Also did my first CPU delid/relid. That wasn't bad at all, if it works.
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I actually had to re-run the test because I overwrote the previous snap shot. That's what I get for benching and posting while working on a 3rd liquid cooled rig for two days.
That's 0.5% increase. Well within margin of error. Perhaps, 3DMark is not a good tool to see the difference between Flex bridge (400MHz single link), LED Bridge (650MHz single link) and HB Bridge (650MHz dual link).

That being said, it's my understanding that primary purpose of new HB Bridge and Pascal's new 2-Way SLI implementation is to reduce frametime. However, there's been a report where increased SLI bandwidth resulted in higher framerate in some games.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1603864/hwunboxed-nvidia-s-hb-sli-bridge-surprising-gains-gtx-1080-sli-testing-inside/0_20
https://youtu.be/mWcsaociTjE
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post #1373 of 1655
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That's 0.5% increase. Well within margin of error. Perhaps, 3DMark is not a good tool to see the difference between Flex bridge (400MHz single link), LED Bridge (650MHz single link) and HB Bridge (650MHz dual link).

That being said, it's my understanding that primary purpose of new HB Bridge and Pascal's new 2-Way SLI implementation is to reduce frametime. However, there's been a report where increased SLI bandwidth resulted in higher framerate in some games.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1603864/hwunboxed-nvidia-s-hb-sli-bridge-surprising-gains-gtx-1080-sli-testing-inside/0_20
https://youtu.be/mWcsaociTjE
it's definitely better. imo it's still too little bandwidth, though. But it's getting there.
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it's definitely better. imo it's still too little bandwidth, though. But it's getting there.
We know it's better definitely. Nvidia's Scalable Link Interface is better than ever with Pascal GPUs in terms of hardware. (Software-wise, it's getting worse due to lack of proper DX12 M-GPU support these days etc)
That being said, not sure why you said it's still too little. Pascal's HB SLI interface with PCI-E 3.0 x16 is quite massive bandwidth by today's standard.
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We know it's better definitely. Nvidia's Scalable Link Interface is better than ever with Pascal GPUs in terms of hardware. (Software-wise, it's getting worse due to lack of proper DX12 M-GPU support these days etc)
That being said, not sure why you said it's still too little. Pascal's HB SLI interface with PCI-E 3.0 x16 is quite massive bandwidth by today's standard. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I'm going to test it with an sli 4k test when I get a chance and see if it makes a bigger difference. Either way I'm happy with those HB EVGA bridges because I change change the color with a switch especially, I have 3 in 3 different rigs.
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I'm gonna say this is the limit I can push my card now.

Got an Alphacool Eiswolf CLC on its way from Germany, but seeing how the 4K test never broke 75c, I don't expect removing thermal limits is going to improve anything.



Voltage limit tapped a few times, checked it against Valley and Heaven too but it was really hitting Power limits pretty much non stop in the benchmarks. I'm tempted to order some cryonaught to shunt 1 and 2 to see if I can get it just under the the cap but not sure I want to boost it hard until warranty runs out. rolleyes.gif
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I'm gonna say this is the limit I can push my card now.

Got an Alphacool Eiswolf CLC on its way from Germany, but seeing how the 4K test never broke 75c, I don't expect removing thermal limits is going to improve anything.



Voltage limit tapped a few times, checked it against Valley and Heaven too but it was really hitting Power limits pretty much non stop in the benchmarks. I'm tempted to order some cryonaught to shunt 1 and 2 to see if I can get it just under the the cap but not sure I want to boost it hard until warranty runs out. rolleyes.gif
Volta will be out way before the warranty runs out...
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I'm gonna say this is the limit I can push my card now....the 4K test never broke 75c, I don't expect removing thermal limits is going to improve anything.


On the contrary, at 76c i'm pretty certain you are being temp throttled quite a bit; both of my cards remain under 50c on Hybrid coolers during Superposition 4K Optimized and both are scoring over 11,000 fairly easily. You would be able to push higher for sure with lower temps.
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Please forgive me for asking this. I am in know way an engineer and in know way at the level you guys are. But has anyone ever thought of creating a bridge for these resistors? You know some small peace of copper or aluminum that can carefully click over these resistors and makes it easy for testing?

That way if you get the result you are looking for you can easy put an epoxy coat on them and press.

Again, just a 'user' here and not an engineer or even remotely skilled at the same level you guys are so feel free to open fire if it is a dumb idea.
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On the contrary, at 76c i'm pretty certain you are being temp throttled quite a bit; both of my cards remain under 50c on Hybrid coolers during Superposition 4K Optimized and both are scoring over 11,000 fairly easily. You would be able to push higher for sure with lower temps.

Well that gives some hope then. I'm trying to keep my GPU clocks in 13mhz hops as I read that was what it throttles at, figured it made sense to go up in hops of 13 (or maybe it doesn't matter all?). Once I get the thermals back under 50c, I'll see what I can get for stability.
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Please forgive me for asking this. I am in know way an engineer and in know way at the level you guys are. But has anyone ever thought of creating a bridge for these resistors? You know some small peace of copper or aluminum that can carefully click over these resistors and makes it easy for testing?

That way if you get the result you are looking for you can easy put an epoxy coat on them and press.

Again, just a 'user' here and not an engineer or even remotely skilled at the same level you guys are so feel free to open fire if it is a dumb idea.

Problem is the recommended limit is 1/3 of the resistor max, that is why people are trying stuff that has limited conductivity. bridging with a piece of copper or aluminum would lower it way to much and the cards would fault into its 135(?)Mhz safe mode. Some people/person had success with using a single hair of copper wire from a phone line pair or something, but that is pretty unique application and was still permanent.

I was thinking about trying to craft tension clips on some 10ohm SMDs to try the IC parallel route but I don't have anywhere near the soldering ability for that. shunting with LM still comes out as the best of what has been tested (so far).
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