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I'm not going to try it in that case in fear of frying $1,200+California Tax smile.gif. But here they are, going to mess with them on air first on a spare rig.

curious of those who bought two are your serial numbers in series?
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Not really, AMD has had more IPC than NVIDIA usually* (I think situation changed with GP102). So they can get more done with less clockspeed.

Doesn't mean that I believe VEGA will catch upto TXp, just saying that AMD doesn't need to hit 2Ghz clockspeed to make a decent gaming card. IPC matters.


Uh, no offense but that's nonsense man. AMD has pretty much ALWAYS had lower IPC than Nvidia (for the past half dozen generations at least) If you take a look at equivalent tiers of cards from Nvidia and AMD you'll see that in order for an AMD card to be as powerful as an Nvidia card it has to have on average around 75% more cores than the nvidia card. (For example, an RX 480 has 2,304 cores and is only about as fast as the 6GB GTX 1060 which has 1,280 cores. An 80% difference.)


This is the issue here, 4,096 stream processors, even with a generational jump similar to what we saw from Hawaii's IPC to Polaris IPC etc.., is in NO way gonna equal 3,840 pascal cores running at ~500-800mhz higher clock speed. Even the older TITAN X pascal with 3,584 cores will still be a far more powerful setup most likely. The benchmarks and leaked info we have for Vega so far indicate it to likely be around the power of a GTX 1080 or so. Which makes sense because 4,096 cores (on Vega) is exactly 60% more than the 2,560 cores on the GTX 1080; so if we assume a ~15-20% generational IPC increase over Polaris (and adjust for it) then we're back at the same ~75-80% difference i mentioned earlier.

If we somehow manage to get a Vega chip with ~5,734 stream processor cores then we'd be talking TITAN X Pascal levels ( or roughly ~6,144 to match this new TITAN Xp). I suppose if HBM2 actually provides a REAL performance benefit this time, actually beating 11,400mhz GDDR5X (which seems very unlikely given that Nvidia and Micron have both said that they specifically invested in G5X over HBM2 due to matured G5X actually performing almost identical for lower cost) then perhaps we could get that 60% difference down to ~50-55%. But even with 50% we'd still need a Vega chip with a massive ~5,376 stream processor cores to match a 2016 TITAN X Pascal.
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First benches are in these are bone stock just out of box and watercooled.
note also did heaven in 3440x1440 not sure why I did 25x14 considering I have an ultrawide. heaven on 34x14 FPS 138.1 score 3478. first pic is top gpu bottom disabled


sli 3440x1440 FPS 190.2 Score 4792
one of 3d marks tests were in valid not sure why will restart comp and run it again but this time with afterburner on and push gpu


my combined in ultra with one card was 4000 so something wasnt right there. i'll have to run that again

Thanks for testing in SLi, I'm glad I just stuck with one card.
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Finally got both of my Xps installed!





Both are running with the 1080/1070 version of the EVGA Hybrid coolers that I was already using on my 1080 Tis; yes, the shroud/PCB layout for the 1080 Ti and Xp are 100% identical and thus putting a 1080/1070 Hybrid cooler or the 1080 Ti/Titan specific one will both work.

As i've mentioned before in this thread, the only difference between the 1080/1070 vs. the 1080 Ti/Titan versions of the EVGA Hybrid cooler is that the 1080/1070 version's shroud doesn't fit on a 1080 Ti/Titan Xp...otherwise, block installation is EXACTLY the same. Get the 1080/1070 Hybrid cooler if you don't care about the EVGA-branded shroud would be my recommendation...plus, it's cheaper and keeping the OEM shroud/lights, etc. is much better looking, IMO.


Helpful Imgur installation guide that someone already made using the 1080/1070 Hybrid cooler installation on a 1080 Ti (same process for Xp):

http://imgur.com/a/hr8lI

Only difference I did with my installation was I rotated the block so that the tubes were protruding from the sides of my cards and not the back (as in my pic above).


No OCs yet on these bad boys as SLI is already overkill, so no rush for that...just letting the cards settle in and doing some gaming before OC'ing and doing some benchmarks later this week/this weekend. smile.gif
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curious of those who bought two are your serial numbers in series?
my serial numbers are way off, and I noticed one of them ends with sucker and the other one says come again... smile.gif seriously though they are spread wide apart.
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Not much of a difference between Pascal Titan X and Titan Xp.

Tested Pascal Titan X and Titan Xp with +125 core and just +100 memory using Afterburner for both setups. It put the Pascal Titan X just under 2GHz and the Titan Xp a bit above 2GHz. I figured this was a safe starting point for stable clocks.
6950X @ 4.125GHz and 64GB of DDR4 @ 3000 15-15-15-1T

Time Spy:

Titan Xp


Pascal Titan X


Firestrike Ultra

Titan Xp


Pascal Titan X



Heaven @ 3840x2160 4X AA:

Titan Xp


Pascal Titan X
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my serial numbers are way off, and I noticed one of them ends with sucker and the other one says come again... smile.gif seriously though they are spread wide apart.
LOL yeah mine are about 2000 apart that aside they overclock the same so I guess it works out.
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Thanks for testing in SLi, I'm glad I just stuck with one card.
yeah I don't see sli helping out unless those 4k 144Hz come out then I think it should play a role. just played Players Unknown thing put a hurtin on GPU but held steady @2100 entire time only uses one gpu around 90 FPS on ultra game looks amazing. I ordered some liquid metal I'm gonna shunt main card been reading TDP can drop 20-40% we will see. pretty high right now and it doesn't look too hard to do.
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Ordered some liquid metal I'm gonna shunt main card been reading TDP can drop 20-40% we will see. pretty high right now and it doesn't look too hard to do.

Good luck Brochacho thumb.gif

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Tested Pascal Titan X and Titan Xp with +125 core and just +100 memory using Afterburner for both setups.]

Are you putting power limit to 120% or leaving stock? Adding any voltage?
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