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Ok got mine today and here are some results in 3D Mark
i'm a bit disappointed honestly max increase over my Titan XP 2016 in 3Dmark ir around 4-5% at about same clock speeds 2050 +500mhz on both.

I see around 7-9% increases in games overall, conclusion is if you have Titan XP you are just wasting your money upgrading from XP 2016 to 2017 Xp is absolutely not worth it and im sure as more of you find that you will see people returning there cards back, i'm still debating what to do, its more about OCD then actual any real life gains... oh well.


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The difference is that you feel you wasted your money. For that 5-10%, many of us are more than happy to 'pay to play'.
 
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Ok got mine today and here are some results in 3D Mark
i'm a bit disappointed honestly max increase over my Titan XP 2016 in 3Dmark ir around 4-5% at about same clock speeds 2050 +500mhz on both.

I see around 7-9% increases in games overall, conclusion is if you have Titan XP you are just wasting your money upgrading from XP 2016 to 2017 Xp is absolutely not worth it and im sure as more of you find that you will see people returning there cards back, i'm still debating what to do, its more about OCD then actual any real life gains... oh well.



Timespy
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1543801 TitanXp
http://www.3dmark.com/spy/1324628 Titan XP 2016

Firestrike Ultra
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12295911 Titan Xp
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11955185 TItan XP 2016

Firestrike Extreme
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12294497 Titan Xp
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/11955141 Titan XP 2016



If you have time, if possible, Could you do the same benchmark with both titan but at 4K. It will be VERY appreciated. Thanks !!
if you have tested Witcher 3, i would appreciate your benchmark with both cards. thanks
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Are there big gains from overclocking the memory?
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Are there big gains from overclocking the memory?
If the old Titan X Pascal (2016) was any indication, memory overclock beyond +500MHz didn't seem to provide any tangible performance gain. In fact, there seemed to be cases where beyond +500MHz mem oc actually resulted in performance decrease due to power limit.
With the new full-chip Titan Xp probably show different mem oc characteristics due to increased number of CUDA cores. Then again, power limit is the factor to consider..
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Ok got mine today and here are some results in 3D Mark
i'm a bit disappointed honestly max increase over my Titan XP 2016 in 3Dmark ir around 4-5% at about same clock speeds 2050 +500mhz on both.

I see around 7-9% increases in games overall, conclusion is if you have Titan XP you are just wasting your money upgrading from XP 2016 to 2017 Xp is absolutely not worth it and im sure as more of you find that you will see people returning there cards back, i'm still debating what to do, its more about OCD then actual any real life gains... oh well.

If you end up selling the Titan XP for $1000 and you pay $1200 for the Xp, you gain around 8-10% performance for 20% increase in price. Let's say that is 30% with tax. It's what you'd expect for a "best single GPU" premium. The Titans never made much sense in perf/$ anyway (except the first one).
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Oh man, this thing can't get here soon enough! I just shipped my old TXP(leb) to its new owner thumb.gif
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Received mine today.

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^^ congrats!
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It seems to me that those mosfets (in red circle) are hottest due to the particular orientation of your bench table. Heat rises and those mosfets temperature builds up from the ones directly below it.
nah.. that's the temperature reading by IR with two delta fans SCREAMING at the face of the card. yeah, heat rises, but not far in a 60MPH wind.
They are they hottest components, excluding the core, in any position. tongue.gif
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guys - just downloaded the Superposition benchmark - not to be a noob and all - but does it use more than 1 GPU? I ran it and the OSD showed only 1 card being used.
yeah, default is ... broken sli again. redface.gif
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Can anyone tell me what pad thickness to get for 1080 TI EK block for Titan Xp? Is Fujipoly worth it? PPCS is not impressed with the company and recommended Thermal Grizzlys to be as good.
yesm fuji is worth it. 17m/k for F extreme vs 5 or 6 for the EK pads. Fuji middle ggrade is 11m/k
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After doing about 30-40 runs this the best i could muster up. First awesome score second what are you using to chill card 13 degrees max holy crap. i have memory maxed out at 1000 havent seen one artifact. not sure what to think about that. second i can put 237 on core with out crashing on this bench only. so i started using curve. i can finish bench at 2126 with 1.062 but they jump from 2033-2126. def shunting this card. once i hit 2050 it went to 1.092 and started to crash as you can see and 2064 crashed as well. will shunting keep core from hopping all over the place? and how do i push the memory more lol

just be real careful with the shunt mod, unless you solder a resistor on. the gallium in the liquid metal eutectic mixture will soften solder. The power limit is coupled to temperature, if you can lower temps, the PL is less "intrusive".

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dropped the voltage to zero. max 1.50 2138 but my score wasn't as good. I'm confused.
those scores are the same on a normal win10 install. the amount of background activity will cause that and more variation.
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If the old Titan X Pascal (2016) was any indication, memory overclock beyond +500MHz didn't seem to provide any tangible performance gain. In fact, there seemed to be cases where beyond +500MHz mem oc actually resulted in performance decrease due to power limit.
With the new full-chip Titan Xp probably show different mem oc characteristics due to increased number of CUDA cores. Then again, power limit is the factor to consider..
I ran the ram up to 820 and started to see artifacts and a down turn in performance in timespy after 780. the loss in efficiency is due to error correction where a proc call checksum does not match and the call is rerun until it does .. or it crashes or artifacts - when enough arts accumulate it will do a hard stop. Foul, free kick wink.gif. The EC in pascal has been very strong.

superposition does use more vRam (especially 8K) but does not seem to error out.
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Ok got mine today and here are some results in 3D Mark
i'm a bit disappointed honestly max increase over my Titan XP 2016 in 3Dmark ir around 4-5% at about same clock speeds 2050 +500mhz on both.

I see around 7-9% increases in games overall, conclusion is if you have Titan XP you are just wasting your money upgrading from XP 2016 to 2017 Xp is absolutely not worth it and im sure as more of you find that you will see people returning there cards back, i'm still debating what to do, its more about OCD then actual any real life gains... oh well.

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it's the drivers for this die. they'll come around.
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Guys I'm getting my Titan XP fluctuating between 2070 and 1964 in 3dmark firestrike ultra (once or twice going to 1924 during graphics test 2 - of course hitting power limit all the time. That's on stock cooler fan being 100% - highest I've seen is 64^C degrees. Is that any good? Power limit of course at 120% voltage slider at zero - using curve to tweak it - (starting position +143 clock then moved up a bit point by point)

Had 8100 graphics score on 3dmark ultra - 7800 overall only as I'm using 3770k cpu :/ (4.5Ghz)

Still waiting for my hybrid / pads to arrive so can mod it.

On another note - when I tweak/tune my curve and "flat line it" after 1.025/1.050v I seem to start geting vRrel and vOP perfcaps a LOT along with power limits. Any ideas?

Last question - I see people somehow modified their "default" voltage curve to a certain shape. How to do this? Each time when tweak a curve and then use Shift+click to move it up or down it instantly goes back to the shape it was originally - I loose the "flat line" part and have to readjust point by point.
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By the way for anyone thinking about shunting the card and are worried about liquid ultra messing up the solder and resistor falling off.....

As an alternative....look below:




It's a silver pen used for prototyping and drawing conductive circuits. What struck me is that the electrical resistance is only 0.0001 ohm / cm. As we shunting 0.005 ohm (5 mili-ohm) resistors this pen has 50 times less electrical resistance.

Originally I thought this was a mistake and expected more like 0.001 which wouldn't be enough for our purpose, but with silver itself having 1.59×10−8 resistivity at 20 deggrees celsius coefficient it was remotely plausible. So I have also reached to MG chemicals for confirmation of the spec, and according to them this pen has indeed 0.0001 ohm / cm resistance as specified. The have also Nickel and Copper ones which wouldn't be useful in our scenario.

Long story short, If anyone else can shed some more light on this that would be appreciated. Regardless, I have ordered one pen and will let you know the results after I shunt the card - fortune favors the bold I guess wink.gif If it proves working this might be alternative to liquid ultra without posing any risk to the solder.

Not sure what resistance liquid ultra has though.

Any opinions welcome. wink.gifthumb.gif
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